Repro "Spitfire" doing aeros north of Newhaven, Sx..
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Repro "Spitfire" doing aeros north of Newhaven, Sx..
Has anyone seen what appeared to be a Spitfire but not with a Merlin or Griffon swooping over southern England this afternoon? Half a dozen miles north of Newhaven - Rodmell or thereabouts in Sussex. Big lazy loops from 500ft to 1500ft (height estimates not reliable).
Maybe this is part of a planned event. If it isn't, he or she may be about to enter the mother of all piles of do-dos.
Maybe this is part of a planned event. If it isn't, he or she may be about to enter the mother of all piles of do-dos.
Appeared to be a Spitfire but not with Merlin or Griffon.....probably a Twister...
Photos: Silence Twister Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Silence Twister Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Why is the pilot of an aeroplane flying aeros with a 500ft hard deck, away from a conurbation, in trouble? Lower than I'd be comfortable personally, and possibly a little antisocial, but can't see why this should create a problem legally?
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I must have got my height estimate wrong. He was a couple of miles away. All I can say is that as he pulled out of the loop, going from 9 o' clock to 8 o' clock to 7 o' clock, he then disappeared behind the trees. I was waiting for a column of smoke before dialing 999. But he didn't re-appear. He may have done a steep turn at around 0 feet and motored to another part of his area. This frightened me plenty until he re-appeared elsewhere.
He was good. He had panache. Only loops. No cuban eights, stall turns, barrel or slow rolls which made me think that this was not a regular display.
I've looked at the Twister on google. It could have been one except he had two cannons halfway along the leading edges. They may have been a "faux" add-on. Phenomenal vertical rate of climb and a deep throaty engine sound.
He was good. He had panache. Only loops. No cuban eights, stall turns, barrel or slow rolls which made me think that this was not a regular display.
I've looked at the Twister on google. It could have been one except he had two cannons halfway along the leading edges. They may have been a "faux" add-on. Phenomenal vertical rate of climb and a deep throaty engine sound.
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http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4548260...-051_final.pdf stated: “The aircraft was prone to aerodynamically stall with little or no aerodynamic precursors and it was not fitted with a stall warning device, increasing the risk of inadvertent stall.”
I would be surprised.....
I would be surprised.....
I've flown, and stalled, a standard UK version MK.26 - it didn't strike me as lacking adequate aerodynamic stall warning, and the stall was only averagely unpleasant - not unlike a PA38. In the case you've quoted, that aeroplane was on final to land - not an aerobatic manoeuvre. Stall and overstress avoidance in high g manoeuvring rely also upon stick force per g, which is an additional warning.
Apart from which, the Mk.26b is a larger and more powerful aeroplane with, doubtless, subtly different characteristics anyhow.
Also, few overseas aeroplanes gain UK approval without some modification.
So, basically, I'd not read anything into that report with regard to aerobatic approvals in the UK.
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Apart from which, the Mk.26b is a larger and more powerful aeroplane with, doubtless, subtly different characteristics anyhow.
Also, few overseas aeroplanes gain UK approval without some modification.
So, basically, I'd not read anything into that report with regard to aerobatic approvals in the UK.
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Hi DL.
Is there a point to this thread, beyond the urge to 'drop someone in it'?
The Mk26 Spitfire, if indeed that is what it was, is not, as yet cleared for aerobatics in the UK, although I believe that the other Spitfire scale replica, the Isaacs Spitfire, is.
http://www.lightaircraftassociation....Aerobatics.pdf
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Is there a point to this thread, beyond the urge to 'drop someone in it'?
The Mk26 Spitfire, if indeed that is what it was, is not, as yet cleared for aerobatics in the UK, although I believe that the other Spitfire scale replica, the Isaacs Spitfire, is.
http://www.lightaircraftassociation....Aerobatics.pdf
MJ
Last edited by Mach Jump; 9th Aug 2015 at 22:52. Reason: Added Reference.
I note that that list is 4 years old - quite possibly other aircraft have been approved for aeros since.
I do agree with your sentiment - this does just read like a desire to drop somebody in it who was apparently just enjoying some aeros in a quiet spot.
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I do agree with your sentiment - this does just read like a desire to drop somebody in it who was apparently just enjoying some aeros in a quiet spot.
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Could it have been this display?
Q) EGTT/QWALW/IV/M/W/000/035/5052N00001W002
B) FROM: 15/08/09 13:00C) TO: 15/08/09 14:00
E) AIR DISPLAY/AEROBATICS (WI 10 MIN PERIOD) WI 1.5NM RADIUS 505152N
0000118W (VCY LEWES, EAST SUSSEX). OPS CTC 07710 809763.
15-08-0320/AS4.
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 3500FT AMSL
B) FROM: 15/08/09 13:00C) TO: 15/08/09 14:00
E) AIR DISPLAY/AEROBATICS (WI 10 MIN PERIOD) WI 1.5NM RADIUS 505152N
0000118W (VCY LEWES, EAST SUSSEX). OPS CTC 07710 809763.
15-08-0320/AS4.
LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 3500FT AMSL
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@Mach Jump.
Because I could see him doing only loops, a manoevre which is as impressive as it is easy (at height) he didn't seem like a fully fledged display pilot.
There are times when a tap on the shoulder, if it can be arranged, can save someone from charging into the ground and ending up in a pool of burning fuel along with some bystanders.
[Tonight - Travel Channel - 10.00pm - "Airshow" ]
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Because I could see him doing only loops, a manoevre which is as impressive as it is easy (at height) he didn't seem like a fully fledged display pilot.
There are times when a tap on the shoulder, if it can be arranged, can save someone from charging into the ground and ending up in a pool of burning fuel along with some bystanders.
[Tonight - Travel Channel - 10.00pm - "Airshow" ]
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"There are times when a tap on the shoulder, if it can be arranged, can save someone from charging into the ground and ending up in a pool of burning fuel along with some bystanders. "
But this was not one of them - not even close
Rod1
But this was not one of them - not even close
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