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Old 29th Apr 2015, 14:54
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Legally not at the moment.

In practice, yes some are, and there's a project going on at the moment to obtain night and IMC approvals for *some* LAA PTF aeroplanes. The Bulldog, some RVs and the Glasair are in the vanguard I believe, but others will hopefully follow.

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Old 29th Apr 2015, 19:21
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Join he LAA, join your local strut, ask about types, performance, maintenance, get to know people, fly with them. At that point you will probably not want to know about CofA spam cans, club rentals etc. you could buy a wood & fabric 90knot two seat taildragger in better condition than a 152 for less than 15k, & sell it for much the same in 5yrs, having had loads of fun and hour building in the process. And learned how to look after it.
Cessna & Piper groups and club rentals are for people with huge flight bags & big pilot watches.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 22:08
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P to F aircraft were not allowed by law to fly in IMC or at night in the UK. But this may change - at present the LAA is testing a number of types. Jodel DR1050 and Vans are among them.
Before EASA, I flew our DR1050 at night. (About 17 hours total.)
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 09:13
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As for cost, you can have a very similar aeroplane to mine, a taildragger Cessna 140 on a permit or a C150 on a CofA. Their construction is very similar if you get a metal winged 140. The 140 will have the same 0-200 engine and will achieve the same numbers. However the 140 will cost you 300 for the annual permit renewal whereas the 150 will cost you 5K and upwards for its annual. This is assuming neither need any work doing. If the 140 needs work and you're handy with the spanners then you can do many things yourself. On the CofA machine you can change the oil and that's about it, everything else is at rates from certified engineers.
Sorry to be pedantic but to clarify: in the UK there are Cessna 120s on LAA Permits, but no Cessna 140s which are all on CofA. And as things stand, no more Cessna 120s can be added to the permit fleet.
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 16:19
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I stand corrected!
There are still plenty of Luscombes, C120s, older Pipers etc around though. I wouldn't advocate moving something either into the permit system from CofA or importing anything. The paperwork involved is simply too much.

I do however wholeheartedly endorse buying a share in an already established group for the purpose of cheap permit based flying.
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 19:47
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Cessna & Piper groups and club rentals are for people with huge flight bags & big pilot watches
I have a Piper Cub what is wrong with Pipers
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 22:43
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Cessna & Piper groups and club rentals are for people with huge flight bags & big pilot watches
I have a Piper Cub what is wrong with Pipers
It crossed my mind but too quick on the submit button.
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