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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 12:50
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I did my FAA PPL to EASA Conversion at FIS. Having gone through the mill at Vero Beach and experienced the organised rip off , i arrived at FIS being a little worried. To be honest i really liked my time at Jerez, the people are so helpful, understanding, patient and work damn hard.
In terms of money, FIS is totally transparent , they quoted as per the web site , they validated all my hours before i arrived and at no point did i get surprised. Given my experience at Vero Beach where i had to wear a uniform! Yes - 59 years old just trying to live my dream , surprise charges for all sorts of handbooks, over billing of training hours - you name it , I was totally satisfied in attending FIS . (Note i attended in March/ April 2015)
Funny some of the comments but i found the school to friendly , informal , easy to get on with everyone and yet totally organised as it should be .
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 13:16
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PPL done at FIS 2017

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I just wanted to relate my overall good experience with FIS. Not having flown for 35 years on my FAA CPL I picked up flight training again in 2015, one yesr before my retirement at age 60. It was reactivated with a flight review in 2016.I attempted to convert it to an EASA PPL but needed some additional training which turned out sporadic mainly due to bad weather and aircraft being intensively booked. In spring this year I finally decided to give it a try with FIS hoping to get ready for the PPL skill test within a reasonable period. I must say it was a full success. I had given myself two weeks from arriving to departing Jerez and it was done within that time frame with intensive flight traing despite a few days of marginal weather. I can confirm an earlier report in this forum about the training emphasis on safety and emergency situations, stall recoveries and engine-out procedures. Staff were very helpful especially two gentlemen I must mention, one being Bredin Harding who did all the arrangements to make it work and the other one my instructor Nick Davies who is an intuitive teacher with just the right feeling to give you the confidence you need to make you a better pilot.
I might actually repeat the experience for my CBIR this year. If I do, stay tuned for another report.
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Just a quick throw in since I dont want to start another thread but does anybody have experience with one air flight school in Malaga, spain
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Hey, did you still get into the 0 to ATPL program? i am actually thinking about it.is the 9-12months realistic?



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I got in contact with Hans and he explained some few questions I had

I plan on starting there in summer for the Semi Integrated ATPL (Residential) course. You have any advise on the route for someone with 0 experience if not this one?
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 22:33
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Fly in spain- Jerez Email

Hello all,

thought i would add to this thread instead of starting a new one. Has anyone recently done a PPL with fly in Spain- Jerez? I have contacted them a few times over email and have received no response and i can see from social media they do not allow a messaging function.

Can anyone tell me the price they charge for a PPL(A) including ground school?

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Same here, its been a while since i sent mails or phoned, no replies at all. maybe they’re not into the business anymore ?!
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 14:43
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Originally Posted by CHEASApilot
Same here, its been a while since i sent mails or phoned, no replies at all. maybe they’re not into the business anymore ?!
Did my PPL training there between feb and may 2018. Quite good experience. Very friendly people, professional instructors.

Unfortunately, the weather was fairly bad in march/april with quite a number of days of no flying which made it difficult for the office management to get everybody through in the scheduled time. Moreover, it seemed that they had a shortage of instructors during that time. I had to extend my stay by at least 2 weeks due to the weather situation.

Most of the a/c are C172. One of them was with glasscockpit. Two or three C150, one Archer, one Cherokee arrow, and a Seneca for ME.

I paid 196 Euro/h for an hour with a C172 with instructor. Landing fee at Jerez is 12,50 Euro which would make TnG's a quite expensive thing, especially if you need more training on that. Consequently, the school also makes use of a smaller uncontrolled field in the vinicity of Jerez for landing training.

Groundschool can be done online (CATS 3.0 WBT). I did all theory exams incl. RT and LPE down there in Jerez and finally ended up with an UK EASA licence.
I don't know which impact Brexit might have for them as an UK ATO but as far as I know they have an Austrian ATO registration as well.
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 15:55
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the school also makes use of a smaller uncontrolled field in the vinicity of Jerez
care to tell us which one or where that is?
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 19:49
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I got in touch with them

Originally Posted by tango_kilo
Did my PPL training there between feb and may 2018. Quite good experience. Very friendly people, professional instructors.

Unfortunately, the weather was fairly bad in march/april with quite a number of days of no flying which made it difficult for the office management to get everybody through in the scheduled time. Moreover, it seemed that they had a shortage of instructors during that time. I had to extend my stay by at least 2 weeks due to the weather situation.

Most of the a/c are C172. One of them was with glasscockpit. Two or three C150, one Archer, one Cherokee arrow, and a Seneca for ME.

I paid 196 Euro/h for an hour with a C172 with instructor. Landing fee at Jerez is 12,50 Euro which would make TnG's a quite expensive thing, especially if you need more training on that. Consequently, the school also makes use of a smaller uncontrolled field in the vinicity of Jerez for landing training.

Groundschool can be done online (CATS 3.0 WBT). I did all theory exams incl. RT and LPE down there in Jerez and finally ended up with an UK EASA licence.
I don't know which impact Brexit might have for them as an UK ATO but as far as I know they have an Austrian ATO registration as well.
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I got in contact with one of the guy. They’re closed till 8th Jan. Without any doubt, they’re one of the best in the business around that area of the world or Europe. They’re cost friendly, amazing instructors and can work on tight schedules. I was considering USA, but after reading reviews abt the 2 main ATO’s who can get that done, i ... Yes, i heard they’re having problems with instructors. From a post, they’re reviewing FIs packages to make them go career wise and even looking forward to sponsor instructors.( I would love to do this, engineering graduate waitering tables ) But on the other side, curious me started looking up in Eastern Europe. You have ATO’s who you know ... but some are looking forward to build up a name. I narrowed down to two: Pan Aero(Croatia) and Rivair(Hungary). Both of them have good reviews online and mostly the attitude, cost and environment there are considerable. So far, they’re top notch on communication and they seem keen to teach you. To be sure, this summer i’m heading out to meet them. I will be looking at the accomodations that can be rented out, the transport to and from school, and thus have an idea in reality how much you need to budget to head for a PPL there. I guess everybody needs a fair chance but at the current moment without any doubt FIS has an untouchable reputation for flight training.
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Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers
care to tell us which one or where that is?
Sorry, it is Tebujena (LETJ)
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 11:07
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Dankuwel!
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 16:16
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Any advice abour accommodation in Jerez? My friend is starting training in July planning to stay for 2 months hopefully enough time to complete his PPL.
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Originally Posted by fly744
Any advice abour accommodation in Jerez? My friend is starting training in July planning to stay for 2 months hopefully enough time to complete his PPL.
He may ask for a room in the apartment of the flight school. Rooms are basic but it has a fully equipped kitchen with a washing machine. Rent was around 100 Euro/week as far as I can remember They also have an arrangement with a local Ibis Hotel that will give a discount if the booking has been done via the flight school. I have stayed there for one week. Standard rooms, very clean.The hotel is a few miles outside the centre. In this case a car will be a must. If he stays in the centre he can take train or bus to the airfield.
July is high season there (Costa de la Luz) which means that room rentals and especially car hires could be quite expensive at that time.

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Thanks for the reply TK.One more question,what did FIS charge for the PPL 9 theory exams?
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Originally Posted by fly744
Thanks for the reply TK.One more question,what did FIS charge for the PPL 9 theory exams?
Written exams 65 Euro each
Skills test 300 Euro + a/c rent
R/T with LPE 100 Euro
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Thanks for your reply TK.
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Other then PPl

Hi there, I'm interested in the school too, I would like to know if someone had a different experience from the PPL, like IR or MEP?
thanks.
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ground exams

hiya;

Could anyone pls help me.
I started my PPL training in the UK, however due to this "unfortunate" summer weather things become very slow and I decided to complete the rest of the training in Spain.

Is it possible to transfer my hours already flown (~10) and the ground exams I already completed (9) to the new training organization?

ta
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Originally Posted by torvalds
hiya;

Could anyone pls help me.
I started my PPL training in the UK, however due to this "unfortunate" summer weather things become very slow and I decided to complete the rest of the training in Spain.

Is it possible to transfer my hours already flown (~10) and the ground exams I already completed (9) to the new training organization?

ta
If someone within EU tells you not possible to transfer the theory credit then throw him through the propeller ! [Joke]

Totally doable, if else EASA is useless. I did it personally in Hungary so i know what am talking about. However your ten hours i doubt they will let you forward it. The best game they can play with you is tell you yes and later on telling you this and that is not good enough and we need to work on it. I've been in the cave, i know the game. By the way i won a 100CHF bet from a guy i met in HU who is a Romanian living in Ireland, same story and i predicted the outcome.

Some schools can be upfront and tell you they want you to buy 10 hours solo with them if you already hold 10 hours of instruction from britain. But schools are ran by businessmen, and some of them are pitiless morrons, my advice to you would to restart the training in whole with them and finish it quicker you can.

And yeah, hungary was a bad option in my p.o.v, so stick to that side of the world where you're heading.

i hope my failures can be useful experiences to learn from for you.

Regards,

Jason.

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Originally Posted by CHEASApilot
If someone within EU tells you not possible to transfer the theory credit then throw him through the propeller ! [Joke]

Totally doable, if else EASA is useless. I did it personally in Hungary so i know what am talking about. However your ten hours i doubt they will let you forward it. The best game they can play with you is tell you yes and later on telling you this and that is not good enough and we need to work on it. I've been in the cave, i know the game. By the way i won a 100CHF bet from a guy i met in HU who is a Romanian living in Ireland, same story and i predicted the outcome.

Some schools can be upfront and tell you they want you to buy 10 hours solo with them if you already hold 10 hours of instruction from britain. But schools are ran by businessmen, and some of them are pitiless morrons, my advice to you would to restart the training in whole with them and finish it quicker you can.

And yeah, hungary was a bad option in my p.o.v, so stick to that side of the world where you're heading.

i hope my failures can be useful experiences to learn from for you.

Regards,

Jason.
Hi Jason;

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Great to hear, that at least my ground exams will be accepted, so I can dedicate my time to fly.
Tbh, I am not that worried about the hours I already completed and I wouldn't really mind buying "extra" solo hours in exchange. If possible, I would like to avoid some of those "effect of controls", or "straight and level" lessons though, but I'll take your advice and just start from fresh and get it done.

Sorry to hear about your mishaps in Hungary, may I ask what went wrong?

cheers
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