Heads up - customs and PPR details at LFAT have changed
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Heads up - customs and PPR details at LFAT have changed
The e-mail for customs and PPR at LFAT has changed, it is NOT the one on the AIP plate, it's now at Aéroport Le Touquet Côte d'Opale | Aéroport International en Côte D'Opale. Select Pilot then Services and it's on there.
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*** Déclaration de vol / PPR ***
Envoyez votre déclaration à / Send your PPR to:
[email protected]
Previouly : [email protected]
Now you PPR directly to the French customs local (in Boulogne) office, and not to Le Touquet airport staff. L2K staff seem not to be more involved in Customs PPR.
Some problems arose between staff and Customs ? I don't know ...
BSI means "Brigade de Surveillance Intérieure".
Envoyez votre déclaration à / Send your PPR to:
[email protected]
Previouly : [email protected]
Now you PPR directly to the French customs local (in Boulogne) office, and not to Le Touquet airport staff. L2K staff seem not to be more involved in Customs PPR.
Some problems arose between staff and Customs ? I don't know ...
BSI means "Brigade de Surveillance Intérieure".
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That is correct. No need to advise Customs if you arrive or depart during opening hours.
Pendant les heures d’ouverture de l’Aéroport, la présence du service des douanes vous permet d’atterrir ou de décoller avec un préavis de seulement 2 heures.
Which "Google Translate" gives:-
During the opening hours of the airport, the presence of the customs service allows you to take off or land with only two hours notice.
Which I believe means you do need PPR when the airfield is open.
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The website is wrong, as confirmed by the exchange of emails below and multiple flights without PPR since.
From: Aeroport du Touquet <[email protected]>
To: <patowalker>
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012, 9:55
Subject: Re: PNR Customs
Hello,
It is no more necessary now to file any customs notification 2 hours before coming.
You have just now to send your flight plan.
Best regards
Françoise
From: (patowalker)
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: PNR Customs
Good afternoon,
I would appreciate clarification of the following:
The AD VAC says: "Customs, Police HOR ATS. PPR 2 hours before ETA, but your website says: "Pendant les heures d’ouverture de l’Aéroport, la présence du service des douanes vous permet d’atterrir ou de décoller sans préavis."
Do I need to send a flight declaration by email if I plan to arrive from the UK during ATS hours?
Thanks and regards
(patowalker)
From: Aeroport du Touquet <[email protected]>
To: <patowalker>
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012, 9:55
Subject: Re: PNR Customs
Hello,
It is no more necessary now to file any customs notification 2 hours before coming.
You have just now to send your flight plan.
Best regards
Françoise
From: (patowalker)
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: PNR Customs
Good afternoon,
I would appreciate clarification of the following:
The AD VAC says: "Customs, Police HOR ATS. PPR 2 hours before ETA, but your website says: "Pendant les heures d’ouverture de l’Aéroport, la présence du service des douanes vous permet d’atterrir ou de décoller sans préavis."
Do I need to send a flight declaration by email if I plan to arrive from the UK during ATS hours?
Thanks and regards
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Jodelman,
Like me in March last year, you are confusing PPR with PNR. There has never been a prior permission requirement for Customs, only a prior notice requirement.
The AIP plate is not very clear, but what it means is that Customs service is available during opening hours, but PPR flights, in other words those arriving or departing outside opening hours, require 2 hours prior notice.
The full stop after "HOR ATS" is key.
Like me in March last year, you are confusing PPR with PNR. There has never been a prior permission requirement for Customs, only a prior notice requirement.
The AIP plate is not very clear, but what it means is that Customs service is available during opening hours, but PPR flights, in other words those arriving or departing outside opening hours, require 2 hours prior notice.
Douanes, Police /Customs, Police: HOR ATS. PPR PN 2 HR avant/before ETA
Not at all clear, is it? Anyway, Abbeville is a far nicer airport, as well as being cheaper. Choice of runways, pub on the airfield, grass available for those of us who prefer it.
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I agree, but you have to dust off your fax machine to give Customs 4 HR PN. The same PN is required for departures, although it is conveniently overlooked.
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As can be seen from the old wording quoted in patowalker's March 2012 email (above), the statement on L2K's website has changed completely in this new version, going from saying that you don't need to notify during operating hours to that you do. Which is now consistent with the most natural interpretation of the AIP entry.
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Was there on Sat, buddy who I went with rang them about something else and they mentioned the change of e-mail address, also said it was for all hours now. Just passing on what was said, maybe L2K don't know either!
If you're heading over there it takes 30 seconds to fill it in anyway, best be safe than sorry.
If you're heading over there it takes 30 seconds to fill it in anyway, best be safe than sorry.
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thing,
Have you looked at the email address you are telling people to use? It looks to me like the website has been hacked or someone has really screwed up.
Infos AERO | Aéroport Le Touquet Côte d'Opale
bsi-bouglne (at) douane.finances.gouv.fr ? What or whom is "bsi-bouglne"? The closest I can come up with is BSI BOULOGNE
Have you looked at the email address you are telling people to use? It looks to me like the website has been hacked or someone has really screwed up.
Infos AERO | Aéroport Le Touquet Côte d'Opale
bsi-bouglne (at) douane.finances.gouv.fr ? What or whom is "bsi-bouglne"? The closest I can come up with is BSI BOULOGNE
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I don't get why our British friends always seem to want to fly to Le Touquet. Too much like a commercial airport, with an eye-watering landing fee (by French standards). They won't see me again... Abbeville is indeed much nicer, and very close to the very scenic Baie de Somme.
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Have you looked at the email address you are telling people to use?
I don't get why our British friends always seem to want to fly to Le Touquet. Too much like a commercial airport, with an eye-watering landing fee (by French standards). They won't see me again... Abbeville is indeed much nicer, and very close to the very scenic Baie de Somme.
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