Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???
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JDA2012-I am type rated on C152, C172 and Piper PA28 Cherokee.
I use the word cheap very loosely, as we all know, nothing is 'cheap' in the world of aviation. The prices you have listed seem reasonable in the scheme of things though. Cheers
I use the word cheap very loosely, as we all know, nothing is 'cheap' in the world of aviation. The prices you have listed seem reasonable in the scheme of things though. Cheers
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you are not type rated on anything.
You will have a SEP class rating which covers you for every different kind of aircraft in that class.
You may be permitted to currently fly those types with a club and not other types but that is purely local rules for hire and nothing to do with any licnese requirements.
There is absolutely nothing stopping you buying say a robin and going out and flying it with zero training.
You will have a SEP class rating which covers you for every different kind of aircraft in that class.
You may be permitted to currently fly those types with a club and not other types but that is purely local rules for hire and nothing to do with any licnese requirements.
There is absolutely nothing stopping you buying say a robin and going out and flying it with zero training.
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The following message has been published on the flybpl.com website:
Important Notice to Customers
It is with regret that flybpl.com has ceased all operations due to a commercial on-going dispute with Blackpool Airport. For customers who have purchased Flight Vouchers from Voucher companies, please get onto your voucher company and ask for a relocation or a refund.
For customers that have in date Fly Blackpool Vouchers please get in touch with your Credit Card provider for a full refund as the service you purchased is no longer available.
If you require assistance then please email [email protected]
Thankyou
It is with regret that flybpl.com has ceased all operations due to a commercial on-going dispute with Blackpool Airport. For customers who have purchased Flight Vouchers from Voucher companies, please get onto your voucher company and ask for a relocation or a refund.
For customers that have in date Fly Blackpool Vouchers please get in touch with your Credit Card provider for a full refund as the service you purchased is no longer available.
If you require assistance then please email [email protected]
Thankyou
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Well, AirforceNone, looks like your question has been finally answered.
I bet gm is smirking ear to ear. Rm gave you a job gm when you needed one, how about returning the favour 😉
I bet gm is smirking ear to ear. Rm gave you a job gm when you needed one, how about returning the favour 😉
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So it looks like another RM venture bites the dust then 
I wonder what will happen with the aircraft & hangar?
Maybe RM & GM will team up together, buy hangar 8 that is currently up for sale - and create the best run & managed general aviation training facility in the north of England
I wonder what will happen with the aircraft & hangar?
Maybe RM & GM will team up together, buy hangar 8 that is currently up for sale - and create the best run & managed general aviation training facility in the north of England
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God there are some backstabbing saddo’s on this sight.
I for one have had involvement with FlyBPL & Comed overthe last 20 years. In this time I have met a lot of decent people including RMof course, and have enjoyed many hours of socialising and flying alike.
RM has put a lot of hours in for the love of aviation and Iam truly saddened by the demise of his company. I am thankful that some peoplehave pointed out that this recent demise has not only affected RM but alsomembers of his staff who like us all have bill’s to pay and mouths to feed.
It would appear that lots of you are quick to dish the dirtand mock at the misfortune of others. Probably the same people have never hadthe responsibility of running a business and would therefore not understand theextreme pressure that proprietors and directors are constantly under for manyreasons. Most would just expect to turn up and fly without any consideration ofthe mechanics of organising a flying school or self fly hire operation.
In the past five or six years we have seen a downturn inmost sectors and more so in GA. Escalating fuel prices, maintenance outlay& insurance costs have all rocketed and yet most schools including FlyBPLhave kept the prices as low as possible as to keep us privileged PPL holders inthe sky. A price increase in any business always causes a comment from acustomer, but this is more apparent in general aviation as the majority ofparticipants can only just about afford to take part in what is a mostenjoyable past time, weather permitting!
Yes, no doubt there have been financial casualties andpeople have lost out in this instance. This has not been un-common in lots andlots of businesses of late, it’s the sad consequence of recession that have hitus all, some more than others. The only indiscretion of RM as I see it is totry and keep everyone happy by not charging enough. All the gossip about GM,FAB, FlyBPL, etc etc etc in most cases is hearsay or somebody’s opinion. As weknow, opinion’s are like arseholes, everyone has got one. And none so more assome of the idiots in Blackpool.
Get off his (RM) case, as you will all be there to takeadvantage of his good nature at the next flying establishment that he, givenhis personal drive and commitment to GA, will no doubt have set up soon.
RM, I wish you luck and good fortune in whatever you do.
I for one have had involvement with FlyBPL & Comed overthe last 20 years. In this time I have met a lot of decent people including RMof course, and have enjoyed many hours of socialising and flying alike.
RM has put a lot of hours in for the love of aviation and Iam truly saddened by the demise of his company. I am thankful that some peoplehave pointed out that this recent demise has not only affected RM but alsomembers of his staff who like us all have bill’s to pay and mouths to feed.
It would appear that lots of you are quick to dish the dirtand mock at the misfortune of others. Probably the same people have never hadthe responsibility of running a business and would therefore not understand theextreme pressure that proprietors and directors are constantly under for manyreasons. Most would just expect to turn up and fly without any consideration ofthe mechanics of organising a flying school or self fly hire operation.
In the past five or six years we have seen a downturn inmost sectors and more so in GA. Escalating fuel prices, maintenance outlay& insurance costs have all rocketed and yet most schools including FlyBPLhave kept the prices as low as possible as to keep us privileged PPL holders inthe sky. A price increase in any business always causes a comment from acustomer, but this is more apparent in general aviation as the majority ofparticipants can only just about afford to take part in what is a mostenjoyable past time, weather permitting!
Yes, no doubt there have been financial casualties andpeople have lost out in this instance. This has not been un-common in lots andlots of businesses of late, it’s the sad consequence of recession that have hitus all, some more than others. The only indiscretion of RM as I see it is totry and keep everyone happy by not charging enough. All the gossip about GM,FAB, FlyBPL, etc etc etc in most cases is hearsay or somebody’s opinion. As weknow, opinion’s are like arseholes, everyone has got one. And none so more assome of the idiots in Blackpool.
Get off his (RM) case, as you will all be there to takeadvantage of his good nature at the next flying establishment that he, givenhis personal drive and commitment to GA, will no doubt have set up soon.
RM, I wish you luck and good fortune in whatever you do.
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Spirited words P Mc ...
Any words of support for the trail of creditors left in Fly BPL,s wake ? or historically ?
Do you think that the protections of a Ltd liability company should mean you can just continue to walk away shrug your shoulders and start again ?
Any words of support for the trail of creditors left in Fly BPL,s wake ? or historically ?
Do you think that the protections of a Ltd liability company should mean you can just continue to walk away shrug your shoulders and start again ?
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No idea who RM or Flybl is, but feel sorry for any little guy whose business goes BK and can only dream of availing himself to a bailout from the public purse like those ****ebag bankers, hedgefunders, cents on the dollar foreign debt buying , golden parachuting,politician bribing, goal post moving motherf*&kers we've had steering the financial ship over the last 10 years that's led to a lot of small business failures
Just my 2 cents !
Just my 2 cents !
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I for one have had involvement with FlyBPL & Comed overthe last 20 years. In this time I have met a lot of decent people including RMof course
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I also have known RM for many many years ( ran his bar for about 10 yrs) and I also have a lot of good things to say about him. He makes mistakes ..but he has also given a lot of people their first step up the Aviation ladder..stop knocking him..He will return no doubt..he always seems to pull something out of the bag !! He`s like the Phoenix, rises from the ashes..although rather charred now !
nd I also have a lot of good things to say about him. He makes mistakes ..but he has also given a lot of people their first step up the Aviation ladder..stop knocking him..He will return no doubt..he always seems to pull something out of the bag !! He`s like the Phoenix, rises from the ashes..although rather charred now !
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I'm glad that you removed your last post - saved me from having to do so. That sort of thing is not tolerated here.
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I'm glad that you removed your last post - saved me from having to do so. That sort of thing is not tolerated here.
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Like @Piperboy above I've no idea who all the characters are and who might have said or did what in this saga....however unlike Piperboy in many cases I feel rather more sorry for the creditors and employees than those running the businesses.
I certainly know of a cases (non aviation) where said company goes bust, creditors get stuffed, employess get sacked, customers get nought.........and the person running the "business" walks away laughing and carrying on around the village just as normal. Shortly after they start a new business.
How do they do it you ask, why do people believe them? Well these sort of people are always very gregarious, interesting, outgoing personalities and in in many cases perfectly pleasant characters - on the outside anyway. So people believe them and think it will be different this time round..............
I certainly know of a cases (non aviation) where said company goes bust, creditors get stuffed, employess get sacked, customers get nought.........and the person running the "business" walks away laughing and carrying on around the village just as normal. Shortly after they start a new business.
How do they do it you ask, why do people believe them? Well these sort of people are always very gregarious, interesting, outgoing personalities and in in many cases perfectly pleasant characters - on the outside anyway. So people believe them and think it will be different this time round..............
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Having known (RM) for more years than I care to remember,i can't believe so many people want to come on here and kick him while he is down.I personally have numerous amounts of favours from him over the years,as I suspect a lot of the kickers have had too.As for some of the knockers he is a genuine guy who tries to help everybody,but then of course some who he sees as friends will stab him in the back.Not mentioning any names but this always happens in life.Ican only say I have never been forced to fly in anything that was not fit for flight or unfavourable conditions.Yes money is a big part of life but bear in mind firstly he was running a business,and also other attempts at businesses to run alongside the flying club.Yes he does own the hangar the fire service use but would you sell it when the airport is under constant threat of development,after all it is owned by a large building company.RM could probably sell this and pay the bill but would you?(the hangar is his jewel in the crown if it ever comes to re development.
I hope hangar8 fails miserably and then we can come on here and kick them while they are going through this torment.
If I had any money I would back (RM)through this without a second thought and stand at the bar watching all the backstabbers coming for a drink at their old mates bar.Good luck RM be along soon and have a beer.
I hope hangar8 fails miserably and then we can come on here and kick them while they are going through this torment.
If I had any money I would back (RM)through this without a second thought and stand at the bar watching all the backstabbers coming for a drink at their old mates bar.Good luck RM be along soon and have a beer.
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There is absolutely nothing stopping you buying say a robin and going out and flying it with zero training.
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Yes he does own the hangar the fire service use but would you sell it when the airport is under constant threat of development,after all it is owned by a large building company. RM could probably sell this and pay the bill but would you?(the hangar is his jewel in the crown if it ever comes to re development.
I am not involved with Blackpool at all, have never met the guy and up to this point could not comment on the on going good / bad battle in this thread.
However if he has let a company go bust with the loss of jobs as well as many a struggling pilot losing out on monies already paid, WHEN he has an asset sat there AND selling it would clear his debts BUT chose not to because he viewed 'his' asset as a 'Jewel in the crown' THEN this is simply unacceptable.
To shelter assets rather than pay debts is not the sign of an honest man. It is a weak man's way out to keep his own nest feathered leaving a trail of creditors in his wake. From what some people have wrote this is not the first time he has done this either (again I do not know whether this is true or not, but if it is there is certainly a pattern emerging).