EGBE coventry
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Yes Steve, well said. You convinced me when you compared the lightest, cheapest 2-seat rotory aircraft today with the lightest, cheapest, 2-seat fixed wing aircraft available today.... No!, Wait!.... Did you just make my exact point by having to select a fixed-wing from higher in the pecking order just to make the same weight???????????
I picked a ubiquitous run of the mill entry level helicopter and an equally ubiquitous run of the mill entry level fixed-wing aircraft. I wasn't trying to massage any figures!
Ok, how about a couple of contemporary kit aircraft?
Rotorway 162F - 680kg
Vans RV-4 705kg
Again, the rotorcraft is lighter, therefore cheaper.
Your aircraft is a 5 seater turbine powered machine weighing over 1700kg.
It is, quite frankly, ridiculous to moan about a £26 landing fee.
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I do find airfield landing fee structures quite incomprehensible at times. I think the old adage of if you say something long enough & loud enough it will eventually become the truth.
Large helicopters cost a lot more to accommodate than light ones, twins destroy runways at an alarming rate compared to singles, forgetting of course these larger heavier machine may also take on a substantial amount more of fuel when purchased at the airfield in question.
Good job the cafe' doesn't apply the same rules or a bacon sarnie for a large twin pilot would be how much.....
I dread the day airport style management is used for the basis of charging in multi-level car parks. Driving a seven series BMW sir? that will be 2.5 times the price of a Mondeo to park.
I do not accept the premise that because you can afford to fly expensive machines you should be charged more for the same service lesser mortals are, "because you can afford it" absolute rubbish.
Large helicopters cost a lot more to accommodate than light ones, twins destroy runways at an alarming rate compared to singles, forgetting of course these larger heavier machine may also take on a substantial amount more of fuel when purchased at the airfield in question.
Good job the cafe' doesn't apply the same rules or a bacon sarnie for a large twin pilot would be how much.....
I dread the day airport style management is used for the basis of charging in multi-level car parks. Driving a seven series BMW sir? that will be 2.5 times the price of a Mondeo to park.
I do not accept the premise that because you can afford to fly expensive machines you should be charged more for the same service lesser mortals are, "because you can afford it" absolute rubbish.
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Just so long as you are not trying to bend the figures.
I was under the impression that a friend of mine flying a Reality Escapade 1 has a MTOW of 250 KG and that the 2 has a MTOW of 450kg. Both are "real airoplanes" and more equivalent in their class to an R22 (which I won't fly in) within helicopters.
As I said earlier, I give in; you are right, I must be wrong. Best of luck attracting fixed wing traffic.
I was under the impression that a friend of mine flying a Reality Escapade 1 has a MTOW of 250 KG and that the 2 has a MTOW of 450kg. Both are "real airoplanes" and more equivalent in their class to an R22 (which I won't fly in) within helicopters.
As I said earlier, I give in; you are right, I must be wrong. Best of luck attracting fixed wing traffic.
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Back to the thread, I've flown into Coventry three times, excellent ATC and easy parking. On departure back to EMA I had to wait what seemed a long time because of circuit traffic, other than that no complaints.
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Not landed there, but Coventry ATC is helpful - as is EMA - so there's no need to be afraid of flying around the airspace.
For me, straightforward parking, easy access to fuel and a comfortable place to have a coffee/bacon sarnie are the main criteria for a visit.
Dave, I'd try to encourage GA pilots from small airfields to visit as Coventry seems to be a good introduction to flying to a large airport. Friendly ATC is a bonus - especially if visiting aircraft are not used to mixing with 737s!
For me, straightforward parking, easy access to fuel and a comfortable place to have a coffee/bacon sarnie are the main criteria for a visit.
Dave, I'd try to encourage GA pilots from small airfields to visit as Coventry seems to be a good introduction to flying to a large airport. Friendly ATC is a bonus - especially if visiting aircraft are not used to mixing with 737s!
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Id like to just add that you only get 50% off your landing fee if its a fuel tech stop and not just a general visit. Also there used to be a different rate for choppers back in the day due to them not needing to use the runway...management are currently looking into this again.
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Coventry has been on my 'to do' list for a while, must get my bottom down there this summer. Bit OT but Croft Farm is another I want to tick off. My best route is via Honily VOR in Brum CAS. Never transitted through Brum class D before, are they amenable?
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Never had a problem with them.
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