Where to pickup FAA piggyback license? (Flight Standards District Offices)
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Where to pickup FAA piggyback license? (Flight Standards District Offices)
Hi guys,
I think I know the unfortunate answer but wanted to check; I'm hoping to apply for a piggypack FAA license on the basis of my JAA PPL. It seems I need to nominate a Flight Standards District Office from which to pickup the certificate, and I'm assuming there's no way around this? The reason I ask is it'll be quite out of my way to pick it up when I arrive in the US.
If this can't be avoided, can someone confirm that once I've picked up the certificate I'm good to go straight away?
Many thanks.
I think I know the unfortunate answer but wanted to check; I'm hoping to apply for a piggypack FAA license on the basis of my JAA PPL. It seems I need to nominate a Flight Standards District Office from which to pickup the certificate, and I'm assuming there's no way around this? The reason I ask is it'll be quite out of my way to pick it up when I arrive in the US.
If this can't be avoided, can someone confirm that once I've picked up the certificate I'm good to go straight away?
Many thanks.
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You are right, a FSDO needs to be selected and they will receive a copy of the same letter that you will have to bring. And also yes, you will receive your paper certificate right away and can then straight go to your FTO and get a flight review. I went to the FSDO at 8am and was airborne at 9am when I got my PPL piggyback.
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REALLY ? How inconvenient for you......
...and it's free even.......
Let's try the other way (FAA> EASA validation) and see how easy that is......
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The reason I ask is it'll be quite out of my way to pick it up when I arrive in the US.
...and it's free even.......Let's try the other way (FAA> EASA validation) and see how easy that is......
Let's try the other way (FAA> EASA validation) and see how easy that is......
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Yes it does expire. I can't remember the exact details, but I'm pretty sure you have to visit the FSDO within 6 months of them letting you know they have confirmation of your licence from the CAA.
It's six months. Why not just get it from the horses mouth ?
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You can TRY and pick up from FSDO but in my experience that does not work. So they make you go to an DPE who charges to supply the licence. You also need to pre-register with an FAA system - forget the name of it. He will explain.
Your letter is required to get the licence AND while you fly you need a valid letter. The letter is valid for a period - if you want to fly on your FAA licence after expiry of letter you need to get another - don't need to show it to anybody unless requested has to stay with your licence.
My experience was:
Called Miami FSDO to be told I could do my licence there - I already had paper one needed new plastic. Told to get CAA letter in hand and call back to make appointment. Told lots of availability
So I arranged flight to facilitate my FSDO Miami visit. Called them up to arrange appointment. Now told cannot without letter.
Letter arrives, I called up to be told to see DPE. Phone hung up before I could say much more.
Called back (same lady) and told they didn't have my letter. Phone hung up!!
Called again day later as the date on my letter they MUST have it! She looked through pile and found my letter.... great. She then told me the only appointment date she had in X months. Pointed out my letter would have expired by then (the DAY before!)...... yep phone down.
So I found number for FAA customer services. Said they could not do anything about it. But got her managers name and number. So I called and explained what was happeneing. He said they were really busy and no longer doing the licence validation etc and I would have to use DPE. If only she had told me on first call I would not have been so
by that point.
Used DPE and paid around $200 and he explained about needing a validation letter when ever I fly on the licence. Plastic licence arived about month later.
Your letter is required to get the licence AND while you fly you need a valid letter. The letter is valid for a period - if you want to fly on your FAA licence after expiry of letter you need to get another - don't need to show it to anybody unless requested has to stay with your licence.
My experience was:
Called Miami FSDO to be told I could do my licence there - I already had paper one needed new plastic. Told to get CAA letter in hand and call back to make appointment. Told lots of availability
So I arranged flight to facilitate my FSDO Miami visit. Called them up to arrange appointment. Now told cannot without letter.
Letter arrives, I called up to be told to see DPE. Phone hung up before I could say much more.
Called back (same lady) and told they didn't have my letter. Phone hung up!!
Called again day later as the date on my letter they MUST have it! She looked through pile and found my letter.... great. She then told me the only appointment date she had in X months. Pointed out my letter would have expired by then (the DAY before!)...... yep phone down.
So I found number for FAA customer services. Said they could not do anything about it. But got her managers name and number. So I called and explained what was happeneing. He said they were really busy and no longer doing the licence validation etc and I would have to use DPE. If only she had told me on first call I would not have been so
by that point.Used DPE and paid around $200 and he explained about needing a validation letter when ever I fly on the licence. Plastic licence arived about month later.
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He said they were really busy and no longer doing the licence validation etc and I would have to use FTO
Now in my mind that is a bad development but then again, nobody has asked for my opinion.
This process with the FAA has always been free and should remain a free courtesy service.
Unfortunately the FAA has had to deal with budget cuts which have lead to the merging of FSDO's resulting in overworked and understaffed monster offices.
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Some of the busier FSDO's have started farming this out to Designated Pilot Examiners or DPE's who have to charge for their services.
Now in my mind that is a bad development but then again, nobody has asked for my opinion.
This process with the FAA has always been free and should remain a free courtesy service.
Unfortunately the FAA has had to deal with budget cuts which have lead to the merging of FSDO's resulting in overworked and understaffed monster offices.
Now in my mind that is a bad development but then again, nobody has asked for my opinion.
This process with the FAA has always been free and should remain a free courtesy service.
Unfortunately the FAA has had to deal with budget cuts which have lead to the merging of FSDO's resulting in overworked and understaffed monster offices.
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I had my new 61.75 FAA PPL/IR issued by one of the UK resident FAA DPE recently. (Works through the New York FSDO)
All very efficent and quickly done. More than $200, but a lot less than a trip to USA!
The paperwork is now online, done through the FAA IACRA (Integrated Airman Certification Rating Application)
All very efficent and quickly done. More than $200, but a lot less than a trip to USA!
The paperwork is now online, done through the FAA IACRA (Integrated Airman Certification Rating Application)
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Google Dr Janeen Kochan: She's a DPE based in Florida but who comes to UK occasionally to do FAA flight tests and issue 61.75 licences under the auspices of NY FSDO.
Unless they've stopped her coming again.
She did my piggyback paper to plastic conversion a coupla years ago.
Or have a look through here
http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...er-europe.html
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Unless they've stopped her coming again.
She did my piggyback paper to plastic conversion a coupla years ago.
Or have a look through here
http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...er-europe.html
Cusco
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I had this same problem with Miami. Could not get a sensible answer out of them over several months. Then whilst already inFloirda I arranged to visit the Orlando office a week later and temporary licence issued within 30 minutes. Plastic licence arrived in post back in the UK 2 weeks later, free of charge.
All in all a very pleasany experience at Orlando after a nightmare in Miami.
All in all a very pleasany experience at Orlando after a nightmare in Miami.
As far as I am aware she has been stopped from coming to Europe.
Malicious rumors have it that a certain UK based FAA authorized examiner complained about her trips to NW Europa as it "infringed" on his region/business.
As stated, I'm sure it is all malicous rumours and backstabbing....... maybe
Malicious rumors have it that a certain UK based FAA authorized examiner complained about her trips to NW Europa as it "infringed" on his region/business.
As stated, I'm sure it is all malicous rumours and backstabbing.......
maybe
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If it's who I think it is then I'm not surprised she's been stopped.
His website has more red ink, upper case and exclamation marks then I've ever seen on a professional website.
Cusco.
His website has more red ink, upper case and exclamation marks then I've ever seen on a professional website.
Cusco.
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If you've got a week spare then you could always get a standalone licence.
There are a few written tests and a flight test, none of which are very difficult. As long as you have the required experience cross countries etc. then when you pass the test the examiner gives you a temporary licence.
There are less restrictions and its quite easy to keep it validated in the UK.
There are a few written tests and a flight test, none of which are very difficult. As long as you have the required experience cross countries etc. then when you pass the test the examiner gives you a temporary licence.
There are less restrictions and its quite easy to keep it validated in the UK.