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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 13:16
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That is probably what the boat owners are doing.
Nope. For them, the law has already been changed. Truly foreign boats (i.e. not registered abroad but actually belonging to an Italian citizen) have been fully exempted from paying the luxury tax. The nautical lobby carries much more clout in the Italian parliament (hint: Italy's coastline is 7456 km long ).

Anyway, what AfricanEagle posted above is just a rumor, so far nothing has been heard from official sources.

Regarding the embassy's response decrying Italy's dire economical situation, just point out that you taking a holiday in some other country instead of in Italy in order not to pay the tax will certainly benefit the other country's economy and not Italy's. Don't hold your breath for a response, though.

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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 14:05
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I did so in my original letter. Made a neat calculation including fuel, wine and Italian cuisine every day ...

I don't quite share the extremely pessimistic view of European GA. Yes, there are many disturbing events: CAMO, Mode S and 8,33 khz are prime examples, having absolutely no advantage for anyone (except avionics companies and the bureaucrats themselves), but costing the average VFR aircraft owner like myself a small fortune.

On the other hand, the simplified IFR curriculum in France is great, and the EASA proposal for an enroute and/or simplified instrument rating is in my opinion the best thing to happen in European GA in decades – if it is ever put in place, of course.

Does anyone when this decision will be made?
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 19:12
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An emendment to the law regarding the tax on foreign aircraft stopping over in Italy has been approved today increasing the duration of the stopover from 48 hours to 45 days. It now has to be ratified.
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That's a lot better but it is still a trap for somebody with bigger mechanical problems.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 20:17
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Peter, you hate Italy and don't want to come anyway.

If a foreign aircraft owned by a non Italian should be stuck in Italy due to mechanical problems it is highly unlikely that any tax would be required.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 21:30
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This has been the work primarily of the Italian member of the Europe Air Sports board, whom I was with last week, and the President of the Italian Aero Club (a Senator).
Very political as you may imagine.
My understanding is the 45 days is to be for each visit by a non-Italian resident. So the clock starts each time rather than being cumulative through a year.
Suggest we keep a low profile on this until ratified. In politics anything can go wrong at the last minute.
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Peter, you hate Italy and don't want to come anyway.
That's not true at all. See below.
If a foreign aircraft owned by a non Italian should be stuck in Italy due to mechanical problems it is highly unlikely that any tax would be required.
How can you be sure? They have chased me for months for bills I did pay, and each time a new person picked up the job I got chased again. To be fair, a lot of non Italian airports do this too (aviation suffers from crap admin all over the place - Bournemouth is a good start) but it illustrates the need for proper corporate transparency before flying somewhere.

In southern Europe, the rules are looser and a lot of stuff works by speaking the language and "having words" with the right people, and a lot of people like that. It's great to get away from the rule-bound north. But when flying internationally and when one cannot speak a word of the local language, one is relying heavily on proper procedured being followed. The last thing one wants is a law on the books of the destination country which will pile on a few 000 tax after X days' parking - unless one is able to arrange some "local contacts" (which often means bribery).

Anyway, little GA like me is irrelevant. What Italy will notice is the people with the £10M boats and the £10M jets not going there anymore. The only question is how long this will take. How long did Sardinia have its "luxury tax"?

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Old 17th Apr 2012, 07:56
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An emendment to the law regarding the tax on foreign aircraft stopping over in Italy has been approved today increasing the duration of the stopover from 48 hours to 45 days. It now has to be ratified.
That is indeed good news as the owner of the jet I fly is sitting in Catania while his jet is sitting in Malta.

I go back and fetch him tomorrow am.

The tax is so severe and heavy that we cannot take the risk until the 45 day ammendment is set in concrete.

"Dear Sir We have evidence to show your aircraft remained in Italy for a period of one week when the law stated that an aircraft is due to pay the luxury tax if remaining in Italy for more than 48 hrs.
While we appreciate this has now been ammended to 45 days 48 hrs was in force at the time of your stay! Please pay 120,000 Euro for your Citation ".

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