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As I said earlier, you don't need a VAT number!
99.9% of private pilots haven't got one.
The only time you are likely to be asked for it is if you use a company name for the fuel etc. Quite a lot of private pilots own their plane in a company (I used to, years ago).
Re cost, you can work that out from the distance, the hourly rate charged by the school, and the speed. It's going to be a few hundred quid, obviously.
99.9% of private pilots haven't got one.
The only time you are likely to be asked for it is if you use a company name for the fuel etc. Quite a lot of private pilots own their plane in a company (I used to, years ago).
Re cost, you can work that out from the distance, the hourly rate charged by the school, and the speed. It's going to be a few hundred quid, obviously.
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what's teh thing about needing a VAT number to buy fuel? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If I were the one selling the fuel I could understand my VAT number needing to be on the invoice but if I am buying fuel, or anything else, it doesnt't make sense.
If you are billing a company in another EU country and have been asked to mark the VAT element as exempt, it is a legal obligation that both the VAT number of the company you are billing as well as your own VAT number feature on the VAT invoice. No VAT number, no VAT excemption. Failure to obide by the rules results in a very upset VAT inspector.
The above applies irrespective of the EU country in which the invoice generating company is based, Spain or otherwise.
(N.B. I'm not a VAT expert, nor do I know the specifics as they relate to aviation fuel, so the above is just based on my general knowledge of how things work).
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If you are billing a company in another EU country and have been asked to mark the VAT element as exempt,
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Indeed, but if the customer does not supply a VAT number then you simply charge them VAT.
No VAT number, no VAT excemption.
But anyway, glad your post wan't pointing out some glaring error due to aviation fuel specifics ...
Spain is an easy trip. I've just done UK to Luxor, and back to Croatia, in a Maule which is rather slower than a 172, in a little under two weeks. Hopefully, we'll make it back to the UK this weekend. It's tiring, I've flown over 8 hours today, but very rewarding too if you plan properly!
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VAT Number
IO540 - No one mentioned the word 'commercial'. We just asked for Avgas.
The refuellers insisted on a personal tax number, we tried a National Insurance number - no joy. We tried the number on an EHIC - no dice. Eventually someone phoned home and got a valid VAT number. Armed withg that they were very happy to fill all seven aircraft and this number worked on every airfield. So long as you have a working VAT number that is accepted by their computer - no problem.
It was never a question of no number = fuel+VAT, it was no number = no fuel.
Why?? Don't ask. Don't know.
IO540 - No one mentioned the word 'commercial'. We just asked for Avgas.
The refuellers insisted on a personal tax number, we tried a National Insurance number - no joy. We tried the number on an EHIC - no dice. Eventually someone phoned home and got a valid VAT number. Armed withg that they were very happy to fill all seven aircraft and this number worked on every airfield. So long as you have a working VAT number that is accepted by their computer - no problem.
It was never a question of no number = fuel+VAT, it was no number = no fuel.
Why?? Don't ask. Don't know.
