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Old 21st Mar 2010, 12:43
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.. and the beach is five mins walk from the clubhouse...
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Old 21st Mar 2010, 12:46
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for each leg, you look 5nm either side of it
No; its 5nm from the aircraft not the Leg!
33 (1) Subject to paragraphs (2) and (3), an aircraft shall not fly at a height of less than 1,000
feet above the highest obstacle within a distance of 5 nautical miles of the aircraft unless:
When VFR you look out of the window and avoid visually.
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Old 21st Mar 2010, 18:30
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Bad advice above re Lakenheath and Mildenhall: they will NOT let you go through their ATZ only their wider MATZ.They will however give you an excellent radar service and keep you clear of the heavy metal. Contrary to popular opinion they do speak English.
As I was the first one to mention them, I assume you are referring to me, and I don't think I even mentioned an ATZ or MATZ in my post, oh and BTW they WILL let you into the ATZ if you ask and they are not busy.

I was flying with a friend in 2 separate a/c and I had gone a slightly different way to him, but we were both receiving a radar service from Lakenheath so I could still hear him. He asked to decend for a closer look and they told him to call Mildenhall tower who were happy for him to decend and transit through their ATZ. On another flight through their MATZ I had an excellent view of the C130 that descended on the ILS into Mildenhall about 2-3 miles away from me .

And Duxford will not want you anywhere near their overhead either as they often have display practice on the go.
As others have said, I've never had an issue either. I like to route via their overhead to see what delights they have outside on the 'pan.

What was that bit about "bad advice" ?.


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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 10:14
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I haven't looked at the route but my advice is to start with a straight line then deviate to avoid class A CAS, and go as high as you can. Surprisingly there are places even fairly close to London that you can go as high as 5500'. If crossing class D airspace, try and route from a VRP to VRP and at 90 deg to the runway if possible and if they refuse the transit request tell them you'll take an alternative routing. If they still refuse then have a plan to avoid the airspace.

I wouldn't necessarily avoid routing overhead airfields, especially if much higher, unless you know that there may be aero's overhead. Often though the aerobatics may take place a few miles away from the airfield so as not to upset the neighbours, so you could argue that overhead can be the safest place.
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 14:16
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for each leg, you look 5nm either side of it
No; its 5nm from the aircraft not the Leg!
This is a thread about route planning. Without the benefit of a time machine to allow you to see if you do fly your leg exactly along the line you drew, the fact remains that when you are planning your route, you generate an MSA number for your PLOG by looking 5nm either side of the line.
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 16:12
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Originally Posted by englishal
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I wouldn't necessarily avoid routing overhead airfields, especially if much higher
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If you overfly Lasham and surrounding areas on even a moderate day in gliding terms, you are likely to find gliders all the way up to cloudbase, or up to the bottom of any class A airspace - whichever is lower. Ditto any other gliding site. So have a good look at your chart when planning - gliding sites are marked, as are areas of 'Intense gliding activity'.
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 16:46
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My only comment is to ask why you would want to go to Clacton in the first place?
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 17:04
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My only comment is to ask why you would want to go to Clacton in the first place?

Got friends who live their, and with an airfield near by id rather fly in 90mins than drive in 4hours

I get more out of flying when im actually going somewhere rather than a local bimble around the city, Its just wx dependant at the mo..
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