Some help Please - GA flights into Leeds Bradford.

[Big Sand]

Dear 'Prunners',
Some friendly advice please. I would like to consider flying into EGNM occassionally. I was wondering if it's reasonably GA friendly and what the likely costs are?. Are ATC helpful and if approaching from the South whats the usually accepted routing in?

Like most regional airports there is sometimes a flying club or another way to fly in rather than for a vehicle with an orange light to turn up, take you 200 yards and then ask to remove a viable organ for payment.

Anyone know what the local gen is on the best way to GA into EGNM?.


Many thanks


Big Sand

[DX Wombat]

Try contacting Multiflight. I'm sorry I don't have their number to hand. Do you have to fly into Yeadon or could you manage at Sherburn in Elmet? Or even the little strip at Denholme (I think it may be listed as Oxenhope somewhere.)

[Hugh_Jarse]

My info is a little out of date, but ...

I believe ATC will charge something like £20 for a straightforward VFR approach in a typical light aircraft : however, they used to have a "minimum invoice rate" of £45 ... !

Then there's mandatory handling : approx £85 I believe.

Add to this the fuel you'll often use flying pretty circles at the end of downwind for ages ...

Enjoy !

[moonym20]

Been a while since i was there;

I got charged £65 in a Hawk XP to land, drop someone at the terminal and depart, I was on the ground 45mins

Budget at least £45 a pop to get in there. Its a pretty nice place, ATC very good, Multiflight great as well

Multiflight can be contacted on: 0113 2387140

Last enquiry i made was for a 310 out of hours (by 20mins) they wanted from memory £78 ontop of all the other charges to do that

[flybymike]

I am based at LBA and get home based operator discounts so not too sure about total likely fees for "outsiders", My guess would be in the order of £25 landing fee for a light single plus say £45 handling. All GA flights are handled by Multiflight on the south side, and the ground crew are all a good bunch of lads.

ATC are very accommodating to GA and quite happy to accept arrivals without PPR or any other formality, but it might be an idea to phone and ask ATC about a good arrival slot time, since as has been pointed out, you can get stuck orbiting on downwind for a long time if you arrive at the same time as a load of scheduled stuff.

VFR arrivals from the south would normally route in via the VRP at Dewsbury, but make sure you have this in the GPS as a waypoint since it is effectively invisible from the air, (being buried in the sea of built up areas to the south of Leeds.) Without GPS, ATC would normally be happy for you to report crossing the M62 to the south of the field.

[Shunter]

VRP at Dewsbury, but make sure you have this in the GPS as a waypoint since it is effectively invisible from the air

Fortunately the whacking great 2000ft TV transmitter at Dewsbury is rather conspicuous

[Them thar hills]

How much!

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Our Emley is really 1084 feet !

[OwnNav]

'' The top of the current tower at Emley Moor is 594 m (1949 ft) above sea level due to the site's elevated position on the Eastern edge of the Pennines. ... "

[Big Sand]

To all responding Prunners,
Many thanks. I am building a picture of GA into Leeds Bradford. I will keep an eye out for that Mast at Dewsbury too

If I make it into Leeds Bradford soon I will happily feedback the intel to all.

Thanks again


Big Sand

[avionimc]

For VRPs, obstacles, etc. you can download them for free into your Garmin 296 from this site VFR Waypoint Add-Ons

Also,I would get a Pooley's flight guide, it has a lot of valuable info on all UK airports Pooleys - United Kingdom

[flybymike]

Emley Moor transmitter mast is indeed magnificently conspicuous but is in fact about 5 miles south of Dewsbury.

[baldwinm]

Dewsbury vrp

there is a distinctive loop in the river that helps identify Dewsbury
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[flybymike]

Ah yes good clue. 26 years flying out of Leeds and never noticed that!

[sicky]

also look for the bright red/orange b&q building as well as the kink in the river

i'm learning at lba and the landing fees for multiflights sep's at £8-£12, but i'm not sure what non-based aircraft get charged or what the handling arrangements are but give them a shout at multiflight, they're a helpful and friendly bunch

[mad_jock]

flybymike I will put my hand up and say I have never found that VRP as well.

I know its next to the loop in the river and north of the GBFO mast.

After 2 attempts of finding the sod and getting told I am nowhere near it I came to the conclusion that it was cheaper to pay the IFR approach fee than fly up and down that river looking for it. Then when I realised that by paying the extra I got to bypass all the VFR traffic orbiting there really was no contest. I even did it in my CPL test and the examiner wasn't happy until we flew by it and all I heard on the intercom "what a stupid place to put a VRP" and the subject was never mentioned again.

[flybymike]

Yep! Spot a built up area in the middle of a built up area! Easy peasy...

[mad_jock]

And you forgot to add at the bottom of a valley in a place where there are lots of valleys.

Took a TP across vfr from Hum to the wesgt coast a couple of years ago. Plugged it into the GPS got all the RNAV set up to confirm it and still couldn't see it.

I presume it was invented when there was something special there. Mind you its an aid to air safety, at least everyone is spread apart abit unlike the battle of Britain over Eccup with everyone at the same level.

[tarnish26]

Its hard to see bugger all in Yorkshire!!

[mad_jock]

Must be even worse to find at night even with all the gas lamps on.

Must be a tripe factory next to it so all the locals can sniff it out.

[DX Wombat]

Must be a tripe factory next to it so all the locals can sniff it out.

More likely to be a Curry Emporium these days MJ.