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Old 19th Jun 2012, 21:45
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There is an LAA deal to fly in for the Thursday I believe.... £30 all in.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 00:35
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Hmm

What's the story here? No-one is being forced, coerced or conned.
I think it's the 1,800% mark up for the day that people are questioning.

Although I kind of agree, you pays your money, you makes your choice 1800% mark up is a trifle eye popping

I flew in for gfos and thought it was absolutely the 1st class way to do it. They do lay things on and it's a great day out. But, how much ?!??
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 08:37
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I really don't understand the whinging on this thread.

If you dont think its value for money, then dont go.

All this "rip off" and "they shouldn't charge the market rate" talk is nonsense in my view. Would any of the contributors who have posted as such be prepared to work in a job that paid less than the market rate for their skills? Or would they turn down a day's overtime if offered 1800% of their regular salary for covering a special event? Doubt it.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 11:58
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It's not for nothing that we refer to it here as the 'Festival of Greed'.....
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 12:18
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Aviation Exhibition

If owners / pilots are being stung for landing, who do they (Goodwood) expect to visit the Aviation Exhibition?? Toffs as a distraction from the main motoring event?

People who own airplanes are either very rich or they have no money left after spending it all on their expensive hobby. Yachting is no different.

I hope the exhibitors at the Aviation Exhibition think they get enough serious enquiries to make all their efforts and expense worthwhile.
Maybe next year, the exhibitors will stick to AeroExpo.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 16:31
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It is absolutely irrelevant what the mark up is on the Goodwood events, landing fees or anything else there, just as mark ups on nice cars, good holidays, or even a decent pair of shoes is irrelevant.

If you think it is worth it (ie. you can justify it to yourself) you will do it. if not, you won't.

I personally cannot justify £200 grand on a car, but I don't moan about the car maker charging £200 grand, I simply don't buy one (a/c no problem )

Please don't go around whinging about stuff you can't justify (or afford), just don't go.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 18:06
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Incorrect

Untrue.

It's my privilege to go about the place complaining about whatever takes my fancy. Whether that be other road users, town & county planners, stories I've read in "the sun" that I don't fully have the facts for or passing comment on the relationship status of celebrities, who I don't really know, based on some awful magazine left in the dentist waiting room.

If you don't like listening to me moan, then don't listen to me. I'll simply go and post it on Internet forums instead.

Oh wait.....

54p for a bag of crisps is still an outrage - I remember when they were 7p and only came in 3 flavours?!?!

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Old 20th Jun 2012, 18:44
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Quite possibly that is why Goodwood is always a fun event!
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Old 24th Jun 2012, 22:49
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A suggestion

I do understand why you feel ripped-off; you want to drop your daughter at Goodwood and they want to charge you £200 for... that. So, I have a suggestion:

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Old 1st Jul 2012, 13:05
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Did many fly in this year?

Have been for the last few years but like a few people have had enough of the fees. £55 a head I could live with but not per seat. There was only two of us this year, in a large aircraft which would have been extortionate. Coupled with their ridiculous pay in advance policy and tough luck if the weathers bad attitude, I've had enough!
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 13:12
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It's not for nothing that we refer to it here as the 'Festival of Greed'.....
These bankers, are they into aviation as well? What does Bob Diamond fly?

I always wanted to go, but like others, I reckon the cost far outways the possible benefit, of flying in. I also enquired about staying at the hotel, and that would have added another huge amount.

One could have spent 6 months on a Greek island, for the amount of a day or two at Goodwood. Ah those were the days
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 14:03
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54p for a bag of crisps is still an outrage - I remember when they were 7p and only came in 3 flavours?!?!
Don't start me off..! I remember when mars bars were 3d (1.5p), 'black jacks' were 8 a penny and wagon wheels/curly wurlys were twice the size, etc. etc...

Anyhoo, I went in on Thursday for £30 all in. £50/seat whether occupied or not is the ridiculous bit and wholly unfair; individuals should be charged as individuals. I can't see any credible logic in charging for empty seats.

Aircraft were noticeably thinner on the ground this year than in previous years. Presumably the recession means fewer peeps than ever are able to fly, but I wonder how much more revenue Goodwood would have made if it hadn't imposed this policy
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 15:42
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Chris Evans can still afford to go, he mentions it in his Mail on Sunday magazine column, to my mind a weekly masterclass in the art of bragging!

I flew into Goodwood airfield only once back in the mid 90's when i was out to get experience. I thought it was rubbish. (I think there was some event on then too)

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Old 1st Jul 2012, 18:10
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just avoid festival of posers go to vscc meeting cost about 15 quid no crowds just the right crowd
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 23:00
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Well I was put off by the cost - I may have flown had it been cheaper, instead I did what most people do and endured the long queues to get in by road...

Of course it is their right to charge whatever they like but on reflection I think Goodwood might realise this time that it was a bit too much and that they actually ended up discouraging a lot of pilots who would otherwise have happily paid a smaller fee.

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Old 1st Jul 2012, 23:18
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My understanding is that even with the fees that they charge Goodwood fills all of the available slots therefore they cannot be too far wrong in their pricing.
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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 06:04
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Thumbs down Goodwood Rip off

I used to fly into the Revival every year and thoroughly enjoyed the event.
I have a Saratoga, which of course has 6 seats. I was horrified to be told a few years ago that the landing fee was £50.00 per seat, not per passenger as before, making it a total of £300.00
When I queried this, I was told that this was due to people booking a landing slot for two P.O.B and turning up with 4 or more.
This was their way of policing the numbers!!
When I explained that there were already checks in place. Once when you are collected from your aircraft by minibus/car and secondly at the entrance to the event from the airfield, where your tickets are checked. I was told that this was the explanation of the increase in charges that were told to say!!!
The chap was embarrassed, but agreed eventually that it was to increase revenue.
Needless to say, I have not been back since.
While I am sure I and others are not missed, I wonder, what the actual statistics re attending aircraft numbers before and after the new charges stack up and what the actual revenue from the landing fees compares..

It's a shame for myself and others have decided that this is a charge too far in these days of increasing costs, leaving this event to the very well heeled.
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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 07:15
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It's a shame for myself and others have decided that this is a charge too far in these days of increasing costs, leaving this event to the very well heeled.
I understand what you mean, but I would venture that those who are fortunate to own and operate an aeroplane, particularly a Saratoga, would, in relative terms, be classed as well heeled. I would hope that in owning and operating an aeroplane, comes some intelligence, and some savvy about life.

We therefore can look objectively at a proposal and decide, if it seems fair, or not. In this instance the charge of 50 quid a seat, does not, in my view, seem reasonable value. It is not after-all, that the spending stops after the landing charge. I would be travelling to the event from Scotland, a lot of fuel, an overnight stay, and a 200 quid fee, all to begin with

Having not been to the event, but would like to, there would be no way that I would just try it, not at these levels of cost. I might not enjoy the event. I would have considered making the event free to anyone flying in, perhaps linked to a meal or hotel stay. There are lots of methods to smooth the cost.

It is obviously their jurisdiction to charge what they feel is appropriate. If they get a great turnout, superb, more money for them. If someone looks at the numbers, and revenue is down, then they have damaged themselves, and longer term that just might become an issue.
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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 20:08
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My understanding is that even with the fees that they charge Goodwood fills all of the available slots therefore they cannot be too far wrong in their pricing.
I know for a fact this is not true. They like to imply this so that everyone's books (and pays the non refundable fee) in advance rather than people waiting closer to the time when they may cancel due weather, not rounding up mates etc etc.
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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 08:53
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Couldn't one fly the Saratoga to Shoreham and rent a car at that airport ?

I would tend to agree that a £ 300 landing fee is a rip off, in the sense that it offers very little value for money. I also believe that a landing fee "per seat" is ridiculous and potentially dangerous.

What does Bob Diamond fly?
He gets flown around in a Lear, but he personally flies an A340 on occasion. Insufficient runway at Goodwood I would say .

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