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with lots of fee paying passengers
.....no flights at all last Thursday to Colonsay as no one wanted to go or come back - am I allowed to say that as it's actually about non- flying?
No landing at Tiree on or back from Coll today - HIAL fireman strike!
But the school holidays in Bonnie Scotland start at the end of this week so things should hot up then.
No landing at Tiree on or back from Coll today - HIAL fireman strike!
But the school holidays in Bonnie Scotland start at the end of this week so things should hot up then.
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It will be interesting to see what the take up on seats will be. I wonder if that sort of data will be published. With no friday flights it bombs out a weekend for me, which is a great shame.
GS
It will be interesting to see what the take up on seats will be. I wonder if that sort of data will be published. With no friday flights it bombs out a weekend for me, which is a great shame.
GS
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Please do not be so negative. As it happens, as tax payers we all have a stake in this. I am all for better links to the islands and the more bums on more seats,the better is is for their economies.
I'm sorry if you find this an objectionable point of view.
GS
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TOGF, due to deletions it looks like this post is in response to yours. Please be assured it is not! BTW I'm not a knocker of the philosophy, just the methodology!
GS
I'm sorry if you find this an objectionable point of view.
GS
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TOGF, due to deletions it looks like this post is in response to yours. Please be assured it is not! BTW I'm not a knocker of the philosophy, just the methodology!
GS
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Its is never going to end the pish which is the local politics of the west coast.
All ppl holders who wish to fly to Oban or any where else please do so.
Please phone the field operator before for PPR and also the fuel provider before you depart if you require an up lift.
Please ignore any posts from any local on any thread on any forum about whats the local fight at the moment. There will always be a fight, the excuse for a fight will just be different. It really won't spoil your enjoyment of visiting.
Fly Scotland its a hella of alot better than England. And a wee bit better than Wales.
All ppl holders who wish to fly to Oban or any where else please do so.
Please phone the field operator before for PPR and also the fuel provider before you depart if you require an up lift.
Please ignore any posts from any local on any thread on any forum about whats the local fight at the moment. There will always be a fight, the excuse for a fight will just be different. It really won't spoil your enjoyment of visiting.
Fly Scotland its a hella of alot better than England. And a wee bit better than Wales.
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Oban,
I agree with you Mad Jock. I've not flown into Oban for months, I used to fly in regularly but was put off by the amount of negitive posts.
I'm sure many other Pilots are is the same position.
Scottishflyer
I'm sure many other Pilots are is the same position.
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Yes, perhaps we should just let the councils, developers and
beancounters decide whats best for GA, and let them get on with it, safe in the knowledge that no one will find out what they are up to (until it's too late).
Do not underestimate the power of prune, why do you think so much effort goes into trying to shut down this thread?
TOGF
beancounters decide whats best for GA, and let them get on with it, safe in the knowledge that no one will find out what they are up to (until it's too late).
Do not underestimate the power of prune, why do you think so much effort goes into trying to shut down this thread?
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Gelande Strasse:
It'll all be published in due course on the CAA web site here. Just click on the appropriate month and select 'Table 12 2 Domestic Air Pax Traffic Route Analysis'. If you care to take a look at the figures for the nearest equivalent of the Coll/Colonsay services - the Shetland inter-island flights - you'll see some horrifyingly low numbers (14 pax to/from Papa Stour in March for example). Also heavily subsidised of course.
NS
It will be interesting to see what the take up on seats will be. I wonder if that sort of data will be published
NS
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I believe that many have been discouraged from visiting Connel which is disappointing but one can understand why from the postings that have appeared in this thread, had I not known the place and people then I may also have been discouraged.
To all those considering a trip in your aircraft then Oban should be in your plan, it’s a beautiful place with warm friendly welcome from the ground crew and others any time I’ve been there.
I believe that many have been discouraged from visiting Connel which is disappointing but one can understand why from the postings that have appeared in this thread, had I not known the place and people then I may also have been discouraged.
To all those considering a trip in your aircraft then Oban should be in your plan, it’s a beautiful place with warm friendly welcome from the ground crew and others any time I’ve been there.
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I have been visiting Oban, on and off for many years. My last visit was a few months ago, and if the Weather had been good I would have been up last Weekend, (staying at the Hotel on Mull and getting fuel from Oban to get home). My last trip was very enjoyable and I posted as such at the time.
I have received a PM from you criticizing the PPRune moderation. PPRune is a private venture which allows us to post, there decision if final. I have been posting on PPrune for some time and have not had a post moderated, but if I do, I do. It is there prerogative, it is their sand box. That said I think BRL has done a good job keeping this thread open, and I hope it stays that way
. If you are not happy, there are many other BB’s you can post on, but you may find you have the same problem over again.
Rod1
I have been visiting Oban, on and off for many years. My last visit was a few months ago, and if the Weather had been good I would have been up last Weekend, (staying at the Hotel on Mull and getting fuel from Oban to get home). My last trip was very enjoyable and I posted as such at the time.
I have received a PM from you criticizing the PPRune moderation. PPRune is a private venture which allows us to post, there decision if final. I have been posting on PPrune for some time and have not had a post moderated, but if I do, I do. It is there prerogative, it is their sand box. That said I think BRL has done a good job keeping this thread open, and I hope it stays that way
. If you are not happy, there are many other BB’s you can post on, but you may find you have the same problem over again.Rod1
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If you pay for them, then yes, but I was just the author. They are "owned" by the people who commisioned them and I would need their permission to distibute them.
Don't worry though. It will all become obvious once the inquiry and court cases start.
Don't worry though. It will all become obvious once the inquiry and court cases start.
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What, apart from the court cases that are already ongoing. Did someone mention Fire Appliances?
As for evidence. My office has two piles of paperwork over 2 feet tall, not to mention the GB's of data on the computer.
I would not make any comments on a public site such as Pprune unless they could be evidenced.
I also have my opinions, one of which is a desire that this project succeeds. I also wish there to be services like the Argyll Air Service all over Scotland and that Oban and Glenforsa are two of the finest places to visit in the British Isles.
My problem has never been with any of the staff or the airfields, but with the decision making processes. When you see some of the reports that have been paid for by the council and then ignorned and then see some other stuff that was obviously followed, a very clear pattern emerges.
Right, that's my last word on this apart from new stuff that I dig up. I think BRL probably already wants to slap me round the back of the head and I think we've tried his patience long enough.
As for evidence. My office has two piles of paperwork over 2 feet tall, not to mention the GB's of data on the computer.
I would not make any comments on a public site such as Pprune unless they could be evidenced.
I also have my opinions, one of which is a desire that this project succeeds. I also wish there to be services like the Argyll Air Service all over Scotland and that Oban and Glenforsa are two of the finest places to visit in the British Isles.
My problem has never been with any of the staff or the airfields, but with the decision making processes. When you see some of the reports that have been paid for by the council and then ignorned and then see some other stuff that was obviously followed, a very clear pattern emerges.
Right, that's my last word on this apart from new stuff that I dig up. I think BRL probably already wants to slap me round the back of the head and I think we've tried his patience long enough.
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3rd attemp to have this posted.
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Previously edited out , how long will it last this time!
Pprune is a fantastic facility which no one could disagree, it’s just a pity about the way this thread has gone. You say to let users have judgement; users have been prohibited from doing so, a friend has informed me that his postings have been rejected by the moderator.
Some postings pre April 08 had been informative which I believe had angered an individual, the only valid reason that I can guess as to why they have been deleted is to prevent users from looking back and being given the chance to make up their own mind, they are not being given the other side of the story or being allowed to see the bigger picture which is important if the “wider audience” are to have their freedom of choice which has been taken from them. Why is this thread now very much one sided. If individuals use this forum as their personal soap box then the crowd should also be heard
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Previously edited out , how long will it last this time!
Pprune is a fantastic facility which no one could disagree, it’s just a pity about the way this thread has gone. You say to let users have judgement; users have been prohibited from doing so, a friend has informed me that his postings have been rejected by the moderator.
Some postings pre April 08 had been informative which I believe had angered an individual, the only valid reason that I can guess as to why they have been deleted is to prevent users from looking back and being given the chance to make up their own mind, they are not being given the other side of the story or being allowed to see the bigger picture which is important if the “wider audience” are to have their freedom of choice which has been taken from them. Why is this thread now very much one sided. If individuals use this forum as their personal soap box then the crowd should also be heard
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Guys if you could continue via PM that would be appreciated. 
Fixed Wing 51, your posts will continue to be deleted as you have nothing positive to contribute to the thread other than have a pop at me, not only on here but PM'ing people too.
What you are asking for/saying in the deleted posts should be either PM'ed to me or you could email me with your concerns.
To reply to this comment by myself could you please PM or email me and we will discuss it further then. Thank you.
Fixed Wing 51, your posts will continue to be deleted as you have nothing positive to contribute to the thread other than have a pop at me, not only on here but PM'ing people too.
What you are asking for/saying in the deleted posts should be either PM'ed to me or you could email me with your concerns.
To reply to this comment by myself could you please PM or email me and we will discuss it further then. Thank you.
