Anti Airfield letter in todays Daily Mail
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Well, last year I had a very interesting conversation with an electrician working for the electricity board. He said that they had only just discovered that the cables were live and uncovered and if an aircraft had hit one the occupants would have been electrocuted. As these cables were by the barn where aircraft are stored he said that it had been dangerous.
The owner at about this time also sold his business to another company. I wonder if they know that the land is scheduled for development and we have been told that building is due to start on the northern end at the end of this year? Who would invest in a business with a limited lifespan? Or perhaps the owners know something that the rest of us don't - that development won't go ahead!
Why not post some pictures hear of the low flying so we can judge them for ourselves?
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Jolly good.
Has anyone seen this yet?
Planning Report Thing
Makes for some interesting reading. NO objections during this planning process, in fact, ten people in favour of it from the loacal area. (This is an application for the extended use of the An2.)
"The take off and landing route shown means that the aircraft would not
pass directly over any properties below a height of approximately 1000
feet."
...The rules are there, but the question is are they being followed by Redlands?
"-thanks Council Officers for the helpful and constructive meeting with Julia
Drown MP and local residents.
-disappointed that the organisers of the 'Stop The Skydive Redlands
Plane' petition and campaign could not attend the meeting as it was an
ideal opportunity to meet and address their concerns and move forward
together." (letter from Mr Smith of Redlands Airfield)
They did try to help you!
Funny how you can make so many posts without including an argument which can't be thrown out in a few minutes.
Give us some evidence, or better, give the CAA your evidence!
don't_ask
Has anyone seen this yet?
Planning Report Thing
Makes for some interesting reading. NO objections during this planning process, in fact, ten people in favour of it from the loacal area. (This is an application for the extended use of the An2.)
"The take off and landing route shown means that the aircraft would not
pass directly over any properties below a height of approximately 1000
feet."
...The rules are there, but the question is are they being followed by Redlands?
"-thanks Council Officers for the helpful and constructive meeting with Julia
Drown MP and local residents.
-disappointed that the organisers of the 'Stop The Skydive Redlands
Plane' petition and campaign could not attend the meeting as it was an
ideal opportunity to meet and address their concerns and move forward
together." (letter from Mr Smith of Redlands Airfield)
They did try to help you!
Funny how you can make so many posts without including an argument which can't be thrown out in a few minutes.
Give us some evidence, or better, give the CAA your evidence!
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K. Lacey
You are one very sad, bored, and clearly very frustrated individual. I hope for your sake that this issue stops eating you up soon as it is unfounded and doing you no good whatsoever.
Roll on the summer skies and get those engines warmed. This summer's gonna be a good one.
You are one very sad, bored, and clearly very frustrated individual. I hope for your sake that this issue stops eating you up soon as it is unfounded and doing you no good whatsoever.
Roll on the summer skies and get those engines warmed. This summer's gonna be a good one.
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Ms. Lacey
I suggest you are on VERY shaky ground if you are threatening libel against anyone here... considering the number of FALSE ACCUSATIONS and outrageous statements YOU have been making here.
I don't agree with what some people have been saying here, in fact some of it has been OTT and I also think that it does give aviation/PPRuNE a bad name, but if I'm brutally honest you invite it upon yourself.
If you have the photos, then post them here on this very thread for us all to see.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Smithy
I suggest you are on VERY shaky ground if you are threatening libel against anyone here... considering the number of FALSE ACCUSATIONS and outrageous statements YOU have been making here.
I don't agree with what some people have been saying here, in fact some of it has been OTT and I also think that it does give aviation/PPRuNE a bad name, but if I'm brutally honest you invite it upon yourself.
If you have the photos, then post them here on this very thread for us all to see.
Innocent until proven guilty.
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K Lacey. Firstly I must add that I am sorry for the behaviour of the individual(s) who has "left a bag of human excrement of my driveway, and threw broken glass and nails there too." In my book and almost everybody else's here too, that is out of order.
The best thing you can do right now to gain any credibility back is to supply us with hard evidence to back up your claims.
Photos or video of the low flying would obviously help, as you say You Tube can be used so do provide us with a link so we can see for ourselves.
If no evidence is supplied in your next few posts then I think a ban is on the horizon or, at the very least, this thread will end up in the bin. Choice is yours.....
The best thing you can do right now to gain any credibility back is to supply us with hard evidence to back up your claims.
Photos or video of the low flying would obviously help, as you say You Tube can be used so do provide us with a link so we can see for ourselves.
If no evidence is supplied in your next few posts then I think a ban is on the horizon or, at the very least, this thread will end up in the bin. Choice is yours.....
Professional Student
Ms. Lacey,
I will admit to not being a legal expert, but I would have thought the above highlighted could get you sued for libel.
"Appalling dregs of humanity"? I'm not even going to diginify this with further response.
You may have noted that some posters on this forum have offered to (quite politely) help you; even to the point of offering a flight in their aircraft. Yet you seem to have dismissed these out of hand (in some cases in a very rude manner), and gone on to rant without trying to discuss issues rationally - which would most likely lead to resolution of your gripes.
It's all very well posting about aircraft registrations & heights etc; how about posting said photos/videos etc, since apparently you're more than happy to post them on YouTube - along with pilots personal details it would seem!
You do seem to be giving the impression you're either not really interested in resolving matters peaceably (either that or this is a wind up from another poster )
...I love a fight and I love the cut and thrust of litigation - just the thought of entering a court room and performing gives me a high...better than the orgasmic groans we get here from the skydivers as they fall to earth..and now you know why grown men who should know better jump out of planes at £250 quid plus a time for a two to three minute drop - not as cheap tho' as going to a red light diistrict....
At least the Luftwaffe were honorable Gentlemen which is more than can be said for the appalling dregs of humanity who are flying from Redlands and some other north Wiltshire airfields.
furthermore I'd love to sue YOU for libel - I must say that those of you on this forum have a nice line in sexism, homophobia, prejudice, probably racism, disbelief....what a lovely lot of people I don't think!
It's all very well posting about aircraft registrations & heights etc; how about posting said photos/videos etc, since apparently you're more than happy to post them on YouTube - along with pilots personal details it would seem!
You do seem to be giving the impression you're either not really interested in resolving matters peaceably (either that or this is a wind up from another poster
)
I love a fight and I love the cut and thrust of litigation - just the thought of entering a court room and performing gives me a high...
I wouldn't say I was enraged - I'm Athene Pallas - and my wings carry my wisdom around the world...
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K.Lacey,
Your ignorance both disgusts and astounds me. You make a comment like this:
Then you have the gaul to post this comment:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the first statement you made above, a black and white stereotypical view of Men in general? You then go on to accuse other posters of it, when you are infact, just as guilty as the others, narrow minded bigotry to say the least.
From reading your replies contained in this thread, I'd highly recommend looking at the way you approach your 'litigation', I would love to see the Judge's face in a court of law when:
1) You tell him it is up to the defendant(s) to prove his innocence and;
2) When you rant on with the type of ill thought out comments you have made here.
Secondly, I would think it wise for you to not to mention specifics with regards to the aircraft / owners that are apparently dangerously flying over your house for the following reasons:
1) Your eyes may decieve you, you have already mentioned an aircraft registration that you say suspiciously doesn't exist. I would say that rather than something untoward going on, the probability would much higher that you actually read the registration incorrectly. As you may be making mistakes like this, you could well be defaming a perfectly innocent person;
2) Throughout this thread your address / location is widely publicised. Although I completely condemn it, it comes as no surprise to me that people have taken the law into their own hands and are leaving such surprises for you on your doorstep, especially after reading certain comments you have made here. Hence, another reason for heeding 1) above. Before, you get on your high horse, that is not a threat, just sound advice for your own safety and well being.
Finally, I have a question for you and I would very much appreciate it if you could answer it for me:
In what field of business if any, have you been involved in which has enabled you to accurately estimate the height of an aircraft?
In my experience, I have found it very difficult to accurately estimate distance by eye.
Regards,
SS
Your ignorance both disgusts and astounds me. You make a comment like this:
I love a fight and I love the cut and thrust of litigation - just the thought of entering a court room and performing gives me a high...better than the orgasmic groans we get here from the skydivers as they fall to earth..and now you know why grown men who should know better jump out of planes at £250 quid plus a time for a two to three minute drop - not as cheap tho' as going to a red light diistrict....
I must say that those of you on this forum have a nice line in sexism, homophobia, prejudice, probably racism, disbelief....what a lovely lot of people I don't think!
From reading your replies contained in this thread, I'd highly recommend looking at the way you approach your 'litigation', I would love to see the Judge's face in a court of law when:
1) You tell him it is up to the defendant(s) to prove his innocence and;
2) When you rant on with the type of ill thought out comments you have made here.
Secondly, I would think it wise for you to not to mention specifics with regards to the aircraft / owners that are apparently dangerously flying over your house for the following reasons:
1) Your eyes may decieve you, you have already mentioned an aircraft registration that you say suspiciously doesn't exist. I would say that rather than something untoward going on, the probability would much higher that you actually read the registration incorrectly. As you may be making mistakes like this, you could well be defaming a perfectly innocent person;
2) Throughout this thread your address / location is widely publicised. Although I completely condemn it, it comes as no surprise to me that people have taken the law into their own hands and are leaving such surprises for you on your doorstep, especially after reading certain comments you have made here. Hence, another reason for heeding 1) above. Before, you get on your high horse, that is not a threat, just sound advice for your own safety and well being.
Finally, I have a question for you and I would very much appreciate it if you could answer it for me:
In what field of business if any, have you been involved in which has enabled you to accurately estimate the height of an aircraft?
In my experience, I have found it very difficult to accurately estimate distance by eye.
Regards,
SS
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As this thread rumbles on, it is increasingly obvious to me that Ms. Lacey is merely one of those Daily Mail-reading professional moaners who likes to stir up trouble merely for the sake of it. They appear in all walks of life now and again.
I agree with BRL; Ms. Lacey has one more post to prove her argument. May I suggest that in her next and final post, if she does not 1) come up with adequate photographic/video evidence or 2) provide a convincing enough argument, i.e. a SENSIBLE and MATURE one minus the hyped-up mumbo-jumbo that has so far been present in her argument, that the thread is closed pronto, Ms. Lacey is banned from PPRuNE and the issue is killed off.
I agree with BRL; Ms. Lacey has one more post to prove her argument. May I suggest that in her next and final post, if she does not 1) come up with adequate photographic/video evidence or 2) provide a convincing enough argument, i.e. a SENSIBLE and MATURE one minus the hyped-up mumbo-jumbo that has so far been present in her argument, that the thread is closed pronto, Ms. Lacey is banned from PPRuNE and the issue is killed off.
A distasteful matter I know, but how did Ms Lacey identify the excrement in the bag as being of human origin?
I have seen bags of excrement dropped in bins by dog-walkers and would have great difficulty in telling the difference.
I have seen bags of excrement dropped in bins by dog-walkers and would have great difficulty in telling the difference.
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Ms Lacey.
I have read this thread all the way through and am disappointed with several aspects including some postings from the more feeble minded members of this forum (most of which have been deleted by the moderators). Your own 'contributions' have hardly been blameless however coming across as unproven accusations that merely serve to undermine your own credibility. They bear marked similarities to the accusations made by anti-airfield protesters in Clacton 17 years ago almost all of which were proven to be groundless and destroyed their own case at the planning hearings.
If you have proof of any illegal goings on then please post them here and silence your naysayers. If, as I suspect, these accusations are merely the product of your overactive imagination then I would ask you to stop this childish nonsense and the moderators to close your account here. Reasoned debate is one thing, outrageous lies serve no purpose.
I have read this thread all the way through and am disappointed with several aspects including some postings from the more feeble minded members of this forum (most of which have been deleted by the moderators). Your own 'contributions' have hardly been blameless however coming across as unproven accusations that merely serve to undermine your own credibility. They bear marked similarities to the accusations made by anti-airfield protesters in Clacton 17 years ago almost all of which were proven to be groundless and destroyed their own case at the planning hearings.
If you have proof of any illegal goings on then please post them here and silence your naysayers. If, as I suspect, these accusations are merely the product of your overactive imagination then I would ask you to stop this childish nonsense and the moderators to close your account here. Reasoned debate is one thing, outrageous lies serve no purpose.
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Interested in what came of these complaints
4 years on... Did anything ever happen regarding Ms Lacey's constant complaining?
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I understand the lady in question went on to marry Mr Whoflungdatdung and the smallholding is now a prosperous tomato farm.
All the airborne topless shots were returned.
All the airborne topless shots were returned.
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