Light Aircraft crash in Scotland
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More from the BBC news web site here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7165231.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7165231.stm
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Just heard the sad news though sketchy at the moment......In the course of my work I occasionally speak to a microlite type aircraft that is operated from a farm site at Midlam Farm close by the accident site...., this is quite a remote site and radio coverage is often poor,my thoughts go out to family and friends as we await further updates and any news.
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More details here
http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk...ane.3628634.jp
http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk...ane.3628634.jp
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This is horrible, and I particularly don't like them having to leave the poor pilot there overnight.
This has been a bad few weeks, and for the first time ever, my wife has just stated she does not want me to go flying anymore.
This has been a bad few weeks, and for the first time ever, my wife has just stated she does not want me to go flying anymore.
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It's been a very bad year for fatal accidents in the UK and fatalities. 
Act on your wife's suggestion and your chances of being hurt or killed in an air accident diminish enormously.
Act on your wife's suggestion and your chances of being hurt or killed in an air accident diminish enormously.
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for the first time ever, my wife has just stated she does not want me to go flying anymore.
I know your wife won't want to see it this way just now, but we all take calculated risks every day, in all walks of our lives. With our aircraft, we take much less risk - because we prepare far more thoroughly for flying than we do for just about any of the other "hazardous" activities of our normal daily lives. My other half has given up trying to dissuade me from flying.
None of us know what happened with this poor soul in this accident and I feel very, very sad for his family and friends.
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CF, please try not to be too upset about the pilot having to remain there overnight. He or she won't know anything about it. If that were me, heaven forbid, I wouldn't want anyone to be put at risk trying to extricate me, or any of my family, in poor conditions.
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Sad news indeed
Whins are gorse bushes.
By way of background on a bad day,
please see Wallace Shackelton photograph of Midlem airfield at;
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image7113.html
By way of background on a bad day,
please see Wallace Shackelton photograph of Midlem airfield at;
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image7113.html
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Please give the maximum credit to rescuers, I've done this many times. It can be very troubling to have to decide if a person is a patient or a victim in a moment, at the time of arrival, and then do the perfect thing to care for them. The ways in which each are properly treated are just about opposite. Once you've made your decision, you have to keep on that path, even though the details of the person's condition will become more clear after a few minutes. It's extra difficult when you have one of each, and have to explain this to the patient.
Rescuers have an unpleasant task, and aircraft accidents can be particularly difficult, as they can be in amazingly inaccessable places. sympathetic thoughts for the pilot, and a warm thought for rescuers and investigators doing their best too.
Pilot DAR, also a volunteer firefighter
Rescuers have an unpleasant task, and aircraft accidents can be particularly difficult, as they can be in amazingly inaccessable places. sympathetic thoughts for the pilot, and a warm thought for rescuers and investigators doing their best too.
Pilot DAR, also a volunteer firefighter
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Wonder if he flew into the power lines close to the western boundary of Midlem or into one of the two large radio masts further west?
In which case both this and the recent midair over Leicestershire could have been avoided if all aircraft had been fitted with Flarm. It costs around £350 and can be easily fitted even to microlights - any 10-30v DC supply is ok, I use a model aircraft LiPo pack.
Flarm gives collision and obstacle warnings.
In which case both this and the recent midair over Leicestershire could have been avoided if all aircraft had been fitted with Flarm. It costs around £350 and can be easily fitted even to microlights - any 10-30v DC supply is ok, I use a model aircraft LiPo pack.
Flarm gives collision and obstacle warnings.
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Are you sure you know how to operate your 'Flarm' device? Or in your experience do you find that 'masts' and 'power lines' are generally equipped with this system? 
Update: actually reading the Flarm website in more detail I can see that the masts could have been located from the obstacle database function (rather than the air-to-air transmit ability). Are you suggesting that Flarm's database includes power lines, church steeples etc? It seems pretty risky to me to depend on this sort of system to keep you out of trouble at low level
Wonder if he flew into the power lines close to the western boundary of Midlem or into one of the two large radio masts further west? In which case this could have been avoided if all aircraft had been fitted with Flarm
Update: actually reading the Flarm website in more detail I can see that the masts could have been located from the obstacle database function (rather than the air-to-air transmit ability). Are you suggesting that Flarm's database includes power lines, church steeples etc? It seems pretty risky to me to depend on this sort of system to keep you out of trouble at low level
Last edited by drambuster; 31st Dec 2007 at 09:20.
Anyone have any updates ??
This is my old patch where I did lots of aerial photography, both from light and microlight aircraft.
I know a couple of microlight pilots from the Midlem area, but have lost touch over the last 14 years of "exile"
Was it indeed a microlight accident anyone tell ?
Sad day for the families.
Edited to add :-
Just spoken to my old contacts in the Southern Reporter who are about to go to press with the fact that the aircraft was a Zenair 601.
Visibility at the time was very poor.
The other information they supplied would be best witheld until families have been informed.
http://www.flycorvair.com/601.html
This is my old patch where I did lots of aerial photography, both from light and microlight aircraft.
I know a couple of microlight pilots from the Midlem area, but have lost touch over the last 14 years of "exile"
Was it indeed a microlight accident anyone tell ?
Sad day for the families.
Edited to add :-
Just spoken to my old contacts in the Southern Reporter who are about to go to press with the fact that the aircraft was a Zenair 601.
Visibility at the time was very poor.
The other information they supplied would be best witheld until families have been informed.
http://www.flycorvair.com/601.html
Last edited by El Grifo; 31st Dec 2007 at 09:43.