Sywell Runway approved at long last!
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I very much like yakker would like to know where BB thinks the money is going to come from? The company was in considerable debt from all the facia development of the airfield even before the first application for a hard runway was rejected. I think yakker is quite right £1.7 million sounds conservative to bulid the runway and alter surrounding public roads, and that's saying nothing of adding approach facilities for commercial traffic. Where is the revenue going to come from to service that level of debt? . Its not from the few extra £10 landing fees he would get through the winter or being able to fly his CTs a little more. Even a few citation jets not millions make.
I seem to remember one of his bleatings after another rejection being: 'If we cannot install a hard runway and make the airfield pay (After I have spent all this money) then it is no longer viable as an airfield.'
Would it be worth more for commercial property?
Is this the game plan all along.
I love Sywell aerodrome it is a beautiful and historic airfield and I am glad that a top chap like Jeff is the face of it, but I would like it to stay that way, as an aireld. It could be a magnificent place and Im afraid I have to agree with Bose on this one, it is plagued like a cancer by a thoroughly unpleasant and nasty peice of work..
I seem to remember one of his bleatings after another rejection being: 'If we cannot install a hard runway and make the airfield pay (After I have spent all this money) then it is no longer viable as an airfield.'
Would it be worth more for commercial property?
Is this the game plan all along.
I love Sywell aerodrome it is a beautiful and historic airfield and I am glad that a top chap like Jeff is the face of it, but I would like it to stay that way, as an aireld. It could be a magnificent place and Im afraid I have to agree with Bose on this one, it is plagued like a cancer by a thoroughly unpleasant and nasty peice of work..
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Unless I have missed something from reading the UK AIP, Sywell currently provides AFIS, not ATC. ATS Manager you maybe, ATC Manager you are not!
Haven't been back to Sywell for many years, last time that I was there was at a Shackelton's weekend, when some dude, after a tour around it, tried to sell my Dad an executive equipped DC4!
Unless I have missed something from reading the UK AIP, Sywell currently provides AFIS, not ATC. ATS Manager you maybe, ATC Manager you are not!
Haven't been back to Sywell for many years, last time that I was there was at a Shackelton's weekend, when some dude, after a tour around it, tried to sell my Dad an executive equipped DC4!
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I would just like to add that I think Sywell is one of the most important aviation sites, from a aviation transport historical pont of view, in this country and not only that but a very atractive pleasant place to fly into.
Long may it last and have the support it deserves.
Long may it last and have the support it deserves.
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I am 100% with llanfairpg on that one.
TCAS: I seem to recall reading a whole thread somewhere on here about what AFIS / ATS / ATC / XYZ people are and aren't allowed to call themselves when answering the telephone.... it seemed very open to how / what you read into the various service titles and guide lines. It may have just been a typo, of course - it's only one letter (ATS / ATC!).
TCAS: I seem to recall reading a whole thread somewhere on here about what AFIS / ATS / ATC / XYZ people are and aren't allowed to call themselves when answering the telephone.... it seemed very open to how / what you read into the various service titles and guide lines. It may have just been a typo, of course - it's only one letter (ATS / ATC!).
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I don't generaly post on forums but I want to say the following:
I have been a resident at Sywell for many years. I have never had a run in with the managment. The faciltys have been transformed over the last few years and I feel a sence of pride when bringing friends to the airfield.
The staff are colorfull characters and I enjoy their company. Mercifully I have whitnessed very few emergancys but the speed to which they respond under such cercumstances gives me a sence of security.
The Airshow and the many other events held through the year are highly prased by many. The Meuseum by the hotel won an award this year which it very much deserved.
I am aware of certain disputes of the past, they are not all one sided (I am conversant with both).
When I pay my rent I feel like I have got my moneysworth.
I'm sure I will get torn to pieces for the above but someone needs to stick up for the place!! Jeff et all, keep it up.
I have been a resident at Sywell for many years. I have never had a run in with the managment. The faciltys have been transformed over the last few years and I feel a sence of pride when bringing friends to the airfield.
The staff are colorfull characters and I enjoy their company. Mercifully I have whitnessed very few emergancys but the speed to which they respond under such cercumstances gives me a sence of security.
The Airshow and the many other events held through the year are highly prased by many. The Meuseum by the hotel won an award this year which it very much deserved.
I am aware of certain disputes of the past, they are not all one sided (I am conversant with both).
When I pay my rent I feel like I have got my moneysworth.
I'm sure I will get torn to pieces for the above but someone needs to stick up for the place!! Jeff et all, keep it up.
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I was'nt degrading Sywell, for that matter nor has anyone else (apart from Bose x's small altercation) we are just asking how MB is going to recoup £3M investment. It could start by increasing your hangar fees TPS1975, and charging you more for landing fees. Jeff has been very quiet on answering this question.
I have to agree with Arrestahook. The fact that Sywell's surface is grass is what makes me want to use it; it is an historic airfield, and it has atmosphere. I flew in to meet a friend there for lunch recently, and we sat on the balcony of the restaurant watching the Harvard come and go in the sunshine - lovely. That ambience will be lost with a hard runway, and I can't see that installing one will bring in enough to pay for it, even allowing for the non-waterlogged days it will be open. Besides which - what disruption will there be while they are building it?
Yakker
How about my hangarage increasing by 10.4% on 1 Jan 08 followed by increase of 19.8% wef 1 Jun 08( based on my current charges ex vat) This could be a very expensive runway which many residents don't want.
How about my hangarage increasing by 10.4% on 1 Jan 08 followed by increase of 19.8% wef 1 Jun 08( based on my current charges ex vat) This could be a very expensive runway which many residents don't want.
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A 30% increase in 6 months - nice.
I believe when the MBB was was told by some of his staff that the £500 pound deposit to fly one of his aircraft would scare away customers his reponse was: 'If they can't afford it I don't want them flying here anyway'.
Looks like the same is true of being a resident. Another characteristic Bletsoe price hike that if you don't like, you know what you can do!
I believe when the MBB was was told by some of his staff that the £500 pound deposit to fly one of his aircraft would scare away customers his reponse was: 'If they can't afford it I don't want them flying here anyway'.
Looks like the same is true of being a resident. Another characteristic Bletsoe price hike that if you don't like, you know what you can do!
Just to clarify, what I meant to say was 10.4% on 1 Jan, followed by a further 9.4% on 1 Jun 08, making 19.8% over 6 months.
Meanwhile, the hangar doors still need the likes of Geoff Capes to shift them and the roofs still drip some nasty white gunge over your aircraft every time it rains.
Even so I still rate Sywell as one of the better airfields.
Meanwhile, the hangar doors still need the likes of Geoff Capes to shift them and the roofs still drip some nasty white gunge over your aircraft every time it rains.
Even so I still rate Sywell as one of the better airfields.
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And if you complain you get banned for life....... 
People should be banned if they repeatedly break rules relating to operation safety...not for complaining about things.
