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Old 26th Jul 2007, 21:29
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Air Law

It seems like I have been studying this for an eternity, but have done about 20 hrs of evening study over the last 2 weeks.

Failed my first attempt last week by just one question!!

Have got the Oxford exam prep CD and was getting high 80%s but was learning the questions. Today the CD got damaged, so for the first time have gone through the confuser. Now only hitting just over 70%.

The questions in the confuser seem much harder than the CD.

Any thoughts??

Would like to sit again on Saturday, but only one more night of study left. Is it too soon?
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What do I need to know for Air Law? (Merged Air Law Threads)

So I am sat here looking at my Trevor Thom book and thinking where on earth do I begin? Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done

I'm going through making my own notes so it's more digestible, but do I need to know all the rules, the ICAO annexes , ANO articles etc etc?


If you could help me it would be very much appreciated!
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Read through it a couple of times - don't worry too much about notes. You'll get the gist.

Then go through all of Air Law questions in the PPL Confuser.

That's what I did. Make it a doddle!

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Originally Posted by roll_over
Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done
What? You didn't have to read 200 pages of a single book in order to get an A-level? Aye carumba. Standards really are slipping (or you're just joking.)

Anyway, I digress. Read the book. Go through the confuser. If you're still confused (please excuse the pun!), get your instructor to explain it to you. Pass the exam. Done.

It ain't rocket science...
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Think the only way to get through air law is the same as with every subject. Reading the book chapter by chapter, making use of the exercises after each chapter which are good for memorising the information, then using the confuser.

I know air law isnt particularly pleasant but like with every subject, battle through it and look forward to the reward of your next flying lesson!
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I did the air law exam in april and passed it with 85%. I read the book cover to cover and didnt sit the exam untill I was getting 100% in the confuser. it was pretty straightforward otherwise but you do need to revise it occasionally to keep it fresh in your mind
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eddiec,

Where are you based? I am training at Newtonards and it has an excellent set up.
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Read the book through once, then go through the confuser (make sure it's up to date edition), then go through the confuser again, and again, after three passes, take the exam the next day, you should get 85-90%. Worked for me for my PPL exams, got me through first time.

I'm not saying this is a way to learn the subject thoroughly, it's just a method to pass the exam. you can re-read and comprehend better later when you are under less pressure.

Oh, and if AirLaw is your first exam, don't worry, it's the dullest, most tedious one, the others are more interesting.(IMHO).
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So I am sat here looking at my Trevor Thom book and thinking where on earth do I begin? Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done
Boggle! Have A levels really been dumbed down that much??

When I was a child it took two years hard work to get an A level. Air Law is a doddle in comparison, just memorise a couple of hundred pages of gibberish, shouldn't take more than two or three weeks of evenings if you're in a hurry.
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Is it true that all the possible exam questions appear in the confuser?

Are they worded exactly the same?
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Laichtown,

By far the best route to prepare you for all the exams (after reading the books of course) is www.airquiz.com

For £3 you can sit as many airlaw exams as you like.

What a site like this does for you, is make you very quickly realise what you don't know. You then make the effort to remember those particular points.

There obviously is an tendency to learn the questions, but that is not the objective, ideally you are looking for questions that you get wrong not right.

It will also throw up question that you will not find in the text books. For example one question I has was what is the VFR speed limit (under a certain FL, I think). I thought the question was a joke, a speed limit

So how many people know the answer?

Give it a go you will find it very helpful.

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.... Obviously your bookshelf is bigger than mine
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I have the oxford cd-rom. Can get 90% consistently, but when I do the confuser am struggling to get 75%.

The wording of the questions in the confuser is more difficult than the cd-rom
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Well after 2 days of revising I managed to pass it. Can't say Trevor Thom book was particularly useful, since many of the answers in that book were worded quite a bit differently to the answers in the paper.

How is air law in comparison to nav and met, I have them next week?
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I must say there are a few things, particularly for air law, that the Trevor Thom books don't seem to have in them.

Sometimes things that are asked directly in the confuser are subtly hidden amongst other paragraphs in the books.

What the books do is put air law in context so that you have a better chance of remembering it-not just for the exam.

Don't just try to pass the exam. Give the air law some respect, some of it could save your life some day!
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When I did my air law for the IR one of the questions was: Where are the headquarters of ICAO?

I am sure this will save my life one day!
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I did say some of it!
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Ah but that's the problem. You have to cram such obviously useless information into your head just to pass an exam that should be meaningful and important instead. If the examiners really intended the air law exam to be useful and an important contribution to pilot training you would think they would ask pertinent questions instead of padding out the exam papers with useless drivel.
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Just think how little of Air Law you will remember after a few years! They put you through this torture and then after that you are left on your own. I cant remember for instance the various VFR rules but it has never bothered me in all the years I have been flying. So in a sense one could ask what was the point of memorising wierd rules that later one more or less ignores. Try asking pilots at your airfield what the VFR rules are!!

While I am on that topic, how does one enforce a rule about how close to a cloud you are allowed? How does one know how close you are until you arrive at the edge of the cloud? Has anyone ever been prosecuted for getting too close to a cloud? Or for being out of sight of the ground?
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CD Rom Air Law

Go carefull, I thought as I was getting 95% I knew it all.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again.

All I got good at was clicking the right button on the lap top.

Made a compleat and utter Horlicks of the real thing, the actual questons were much more complex than the CD.

CD now to be used as a coffee mat,

My new CD? The boss chooses 40 numbers between 1- 191 from the Confuser, and I then attempt to pass.

I have just started NPPL.............wind from N, gusting up to 20 kts in august, Whats going on?
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