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Old 15th Dec 2007, 09:34
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I see both your points,but the fact is this could have been far worse and only luck has prevented something far worse happening.

Was this person a ppl or worse a commercial pilot and what cost another moment of not paying attention. a couple of hundred people, few million quid in aircraft.....

I am by no means perfect and do walk round twice,but that is to make sure the door is where I left it.

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Old 15th Dec 2007, 10:23
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but the fact is this could have been far worse and only luck has prevented something far worse happening.
which is a sentiment that could be echoed on almost every road journey undertaken, when a driver does something careless or stupid -- and most of them do every trip. It's neither appropriate nor acceptable to do safety management (and its enforcement) on the basis of perceived risk.
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 12:53
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An aquaintance of mine actually did it. He is an ATC as well. Said he got distracted in his walkround by someone talking to him (not an excuse). Took off from an uncontrolled field but on landing controller said "whats that hanging from your aircraft?". He said it didn't feel particulary different. I would imagine even a 20ib lump of concrete bouncing along a runway you might feel something and /or even bounce into the hull and cause damage.

From that day he has never flown since. Says he realised he came too close to meeting his maker, to ever go up again.
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 17:00
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''Cost 1700 not a chance .. engine, prop and front fuselage stripdown and rebuild or replace ... try nearer 10,000''
I wish!!
Not much change out of 20k for my propstrike
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 08:58
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1700 pounds were fine and costs nothing to do with repairs to aircraft.

Bookworm : Opening the car door involves risk as does everything we all undertake on a daily basis,vigilance is less costly than negligance
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 09:12
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Bookworm : Opening the car door involves risk as does everything we all undertake on a daily basis,vigilance is less costly than negligance
Yes, and as someone who cycles, I wish more motorists were given 4-digit fines for negligently opening car doors, because in reality the probablity of killing or seriously injuring someone that way is considerably greater than by allowing a concrete block to fall randomly from an aircraft.
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 10:55
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...and just to keep things in balance...

As someone who drives, I would love to hear of just one cyclist being prosecuted for riding without lights, or doing any of the other hazardous things which seem to the cycling community to be routine, but which although negligent would make no difference to the prosecution of any car driver involved in an accident...
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 11:53
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but which although negligent would make no difference to the prosecution of any car driver involved in an accident...
Really? That would be disappointing. I would have thought that a cyclist breaking the law by failing to display lights would make it very difficult to prosecute a motorist involved in such an accident unless their behaviour was also negligent.

The only accident I've been involved in was one in which a driver pulled out in front of me from the left and I went over the bonnet, leaving me with a nasty facial injury. It was under street lights, I was wearing a high-vis vest and displaying lights. The driver was not prosecuted (with my agreement) on the basis that a prosecution would serve no significant purpose -- lesson learnt. I doubt our tie-down pilot will make the same mistake again, either, but it seems the ARE has more time on its hands than the CPS.
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 13:10
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dont even start on bike lioghts cause how many people check their car lights often enough the amount of cars i have seen recently with one head light or brake lights or badly earthed brake lights on normal cars is huge it is a huge hazard please everyone check ur car lights.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 18:35
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On a slightly different track speaking of bikes (I hope you recovered quickly Bookworm) A friend in Edinburgh was parked lights on, well lit street,Cyclist runs in to him. He gets out offers help to cyclist,rings the man's wife and takes him to his home,he gives the man his name and adress and notes the cyclists, and informs his insurance company.
Weeks pass and he recieves a claim for compensation from said cyclist.

Cyclist turns out to be Polish doctor working in local hospital and recieved 1500 in compensation.

Justice ?
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