Plane Crashes In Manhattan

[aardvark2zz]

plane took off from teterboro airport about 7 miles west of manhattan.

mayday called.

eyewitness 2 floors up, saw pilot in plane

plane of 34yr old pitcher Cory Litelle of ny yankees and was taking off today

he got license last year

187K$ cirrus sr20 built in 2002 with 400 hrs airtime.

probably had plane-parachute. standard on this plane.

Ceiling here was 1800ft. Don't you need 1000 ft above you !!?

Reporting collision avoidance manouver.

1 sole on board

I've flown into Terterboro and flew VFR along Hudson river at 1000 ft without communicating with ATC (legal prior to 9-11) from north of manhattan to atlantic ocean.

[jondc9]

SR20 type of aircraft:





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N929CD is Assigned

Aircraft Description

Serial Number 1230 Type Registration Individual
Manufacturer Name CIRRUS DESIGN CORP Certificate Issue Date None
Model SR20 Status In Question
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 53157717
MFR Year 2002 Fractional Owner NO



Registered Owner

Name REGISTRATION PENDING
Street 7824 SUGAR PINE BLUE
City LAKELAND State FLORIDA Zip Code 33810
County POLK
Country UNITED STATES



Airworthiness

Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING Classification Standard
Engine Model I0-360-ES Category Normal

A/W Date 07/25/2002

Other Owner Names


APPLICANT LIDLE CORY APPLICATION DATED 7/21/06 120 DAY EXT 8/29/06



Temporary Certificate
None


Fuel Modifications
None

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[tiggerific_69]

Reports that Corey Lidle has apprently died in this crash

[hobie]

Almost everything east of the building seems 'low rise' ? .....

Google Earth ........ search using ......

524e 72nd street newyork

[Helipolarbear]

Cory Lidle NY yankees pitcher reported as pilot killed in crash. RIP

[bearcuban12]

From the look of the damage to the building, it looks as though the wings were level when it hit

[haughtney1]

CNN saying 4 POB including 1 who was the NY Yankee pitcher...poor buggers

[aardvark2zz]

His passport was found at crash site.

Probably with instructor on board.

40th floor

registration N929CD registration pending for Cory

at least 2 confirmed dead

[Flying Microphone]

Yankees website has more...
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=nyy

RIP

[SeniorDispatcher]

Originally Posted by 20driver

Sorry - don't know how to get past dated METARS

Here they are for the last 6 hours...

Don't know what ratings the guy had, but I hope it doesn't end up being another Thurman Munson/JFK Jr. kind of deal...


KTEB 112111Z 09009KT 2SM RA BKN017 OVC024 16/13 A2983 RMK AO2 P0002
KTEB 112058Z 08005KT 3SM -RA BR BKN019 OVC024 16/14 A2984 RMK AO2 P0000
KTEB 112051Z VRB05KT 2SM -RA OVC019 16/13 A2984 RMK AO2 DZE02RAB02 SLP106 P0010 60010 T01610133 56020
KTEB 112031Z 07004KT 2SM RA OVC017 17/13 A2985 RMK AO2 DZE02RAB02 P0005
KTEB 111951Z COR 09008KT 3SM DZ OVC019 17/13 A2986 RMK AO2 DZB48 SLP109 P0000 T01720128
KTEB 111851Z 08007KT 7SM OVC019 17/13 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP115 T01720128
KTEB 111751Z 09007KT 7SM OVC017 17/12 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP125 T01670122 10172 20150 58017
KTEB 111651Z 11007KT 7SM OVC015 17/12 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP133 T01670122
KTEB 111551Z 10007KT 060V120 7SM OVC015 17/12 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP139 T01670117

KEWR 112118Z 06007KT 2SM +RA BR BKN008 BKN012 OVC016 16/14 A2983 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 2 1/2 P0008
KEWR 112111Z 07008KT 3SM R04R/6000VP6000FT +RA BR BKN008 BKN012 OVC016 16/14 A2983 RMK AO2 P0005
KEWR 112051Z 08006KT 2 1/2SM RA BR BKN008 BKN012 OVC016 17/14 A2984 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 3 SLP102 P0018 60018 T01670144 56021
KEWR 111958Z 09006KT 2 1/2SM RA BKN008 BKN012 OVC016 17/14 A2986 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 3 P0001
KEWR 111951Z 09009KT 3SM RA BKN012 OVC016 17/14 A2986 RMK AO2 RAB43 SLP110 P0000 T01720139
KEWR 111851Z 08008KT 7SM OVC017 18/13 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP114 T01830133
KEWR 111751Z 09009KT 7SM BKN020 OVC027 18/13 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP124 T01780133 10178 20161 58021
KEWR 111651Z 09009KT 7SM OVC016 17/13 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP135 T01720128
KEWR 111551Z 09009KT 7SM OVC016 17/12 A2995 RMK AO2 SLP140 T01670122

KLGA 112114Z 06010KT 2SM RA FEW007 OVC017 17/14 A2984
KLGA 112110Z 06010KT 2 1/2SM RA FEW009 OVC019 17/14 A2985 RMK AO2 P0006
KLGA 112059Z 06011KT 2SM RA FEW009 OVC019 17/14 A2984 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 2 1/2 P0003
KLGA 112051Z 07010KT 1 3/4SM RA BKN019 OVC025 17/14 A2985 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 2 1/2 SLP106 P0011 60011 T01670139 56021
KLGA 112038Z 08011KT 1 3/4SM RA BKN016 OVC022 17/14 A2985 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 2 1/2 P0006
KLGA 111951Z 10011KT 8SM -RA OVC018 18/13 A2987 RMK AO2 RAB46 SLP114 P0000 T01830133
KLGA 111851Z 10013KT 9SM OVC018 18/13 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP118 T01830128
KLGA 111751Z 10011KT 9SM OVC018 18/13 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP128 T01830133 10183 20161 58019
KLGA 111651Z 08009KT 10SM OVC016 18/13 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP136 T01780128
KLGA 111551Z 09010KT 10SM OVC016 17/12 A2995 RMK AO2 SLP143 T01720122

KJFK NIL
KJFK NIL
KJFK 111851Z 07011G19KT 8SM OVC015 18/13 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP118 T01780133
KJFK 111751Z 08012KT 8SM BKN016 OVC022 18/14 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP129 T01780139 10178 20156 58020
KJFK 111736Z 08012KT 8SM BKN014 OVC020 17/13 A2992 RMK AO2
KJFK 111651Z 08013KT 9SM BKN016 OVC020 17/13 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP139 T01720133
KJFK 111551Z 07013KT 9SM OVC016 17/13 A2996 RMK AO2 SLP144 T01720128

[ChristiaanJ]

SeniorDispatcher,
Trying to read between the lines (and between the airports....), looks like a low ceiling, yes.
But wasn't there a mention of a "mayday", and a witness mentioning "aerobatics"?
Loss of control under IFR? Mechanical failure? I'm not going to start the guessing game.
But I don't envy the NTSB investigators that will have to come up with a "probable cause".

[SeniorDispatcher]

Originally Posted by ChristiaanJ

SeniorDispatcher,
Trying to read between the lines (and between the airports....), looks like a low ceiling, yes.
But wasn't there a mention of a "mayday", and a witness mentioning "aerobatics"?
Loss of control under IFR? Mechanical failure? I'm not going to start the guessing game.
But I don't envy the NTSB investigators that will have to come up with a "probable cause".

I don't envy them either...

As far as the "aerobatics" mentioned by witnesses, just like one man's ceiling is another man's floor, one witnesses non-routine non-straight-and-level flights is another witnesses "acrobatics".

I wonder how long it will be before the media mentions Munson/JFK Jr., or even the B-25 into the Empire State Building back in the 1940s?

[iskandra]

Originally Posted by SeniorDispatcher

I wonder how long it will be before the media mentions Munson/JFK Jr., or even the B-25 into the Empire State Building back in the 1940s?

Oh, the Yankees website cited earlier has already done that and mentioned Munson...

[AcroChik]

Photographs of the airplane involved:

http://www.steelaviation.com/catalog...px?prod_id=154

[wannabepilot1531]

The pilot of the aircraft was an ex- Toronto Blue Jay baseball player.

[SeniorDispatcher]

Originally Posted by Kalium Chloride

For those debating the route the aircraft took, this JFK tracking website appears to show that between 13:01 and 13:07, a GA aircraft comes in from the right of the picture, at a height of 1,400ft, then turns left and rapidly descends, gets to about 300ft and vanishes.
(To view, set clock to about 13:00, range 20 miles, then press 'Start' - then click on the aircraft to generate an ID and altitude). It comes passes the red "NEW" of "NEW YORK"

It's been suggested (on another board) that this may been a float-equipped Caravan than runs from the Hamptons into NYC and lands on the East River. Never heard of such a service myself, but in any event, media here is showing the accident aircraft off TEB and heading for the Statue of Liberty, and after a 360 around it, it supposedly heads NNE from there...

Who knows...

[Nov71]

The radar link shows 1200' to 500' then 2500' back to 1000' all in ~30 secs suggestive of bad turbulence. One witness said a/c "sounded like a Harley Davidson" - Rough engine?

All speculation of course and very sad outcome.

[AcroChik]

Seaplane base in Manhattan, New York.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/6N7

A few years ago there was a seasonal service from here to the Hamptons. I don't know it it's still in operation.

[FlyVMO]

The Hudson and East River class B exclusions are from the surface to 1100 (NY TAC). I do traffic watch flights in the area, although I generally stay SW of the City. I canceled todays morning flight because although it would have been legal, the ceiling did not leave much room to manuever, particularly over the hills in western NJ. With visibility 9 at the time of the accident though, I would look to the possible Mayday along with some witness accounts of a loud noise PRIOR to impact as possibly being more relevant. Then again we all know how unreliable witness accounts can be.
Other than the tragic loss of life, my next concern is the possible exploitation of this incident for political purposes. I already heard Congressman King was purportedly mouthing off about restricting GA in the area. Do we ban taxis every time one runs up on the sidewalk killing someone? Twits. Sorry I know this is the choir, so I wont preach.
Flyvmo

VFR mins btw, are that you operate no less than 500 below cloud, 1000 above and 3 miles vis in class echo, not 1000 below as mentioned earlier. Also note the exclusions are class G below 700', which would mean 1 mile vis and clear of clouds.

[G-CPTN]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11...ash/index.html
javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2006/10/11/foreman.ny.plane.crash.explainer.cnn','2006/10/18');
Suggests pilot reported 'fuel problem' shortly followed by spiral descent from 1500 feet to 400 feet . . . .