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I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say (write) this but, IF (WHEN) THE CLUB IS PUT TO REST BY THE ADMINISTRATORS, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY KIND OF ENTERPRISE PERMITTED TO REPLACE IT!
There I've gone and said it again.
Not withstanding all the uncertainty regarding the honesty or otherwise of Mr Golfin, unless he's got a real will to not only clear the debt but also to fight against Parkin's policies for which he'll require a whole bunch of sharp lawyers there is no way this is going to amount to anything more than diddly squat.
Perhaps the Media should be involved and pressure brought to bear on Parkin but I think he'll be fireproof.
Oh and forgot to add that the days of Gill's demise were well before Parkin came on the scene. If things were difficult to organise then and Mr Golfin couldn't stomach the competition then, what stomach does he have now?
Cagivawally is right to draw attention to those known facts by way of a reality check.
There I've gone and said it again.
Not withstanding all the uncertainty regarding the honesty or otherwise of Mr Golfin, unless he's got a real will to not only clear the debt but also to fight against Parkin's policies for which he'll require a whole bunch of sharp lawyers there is no way this is going to amount to anything more than diddly squat.
Perhaps the Media should be involved and pressure brought to bear on Parkin but I think he'll be fireproof.
Oh and forgot to add that the days of Gill's demise were well before Parkin came on the scene. If things were difficult to organise then and Mr Golfin couldn't stomach the competition then, what stomach does he have now?
Cagivawally is right to draw attention to those known facts by way of a reality check.
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Perhaps the Media should be involved and pressure brought to bear on Parkin but I think he'll be fireproof.
Perhaps the Media should be involved and pressure brought to bear on Parkin but I think he'll be fireproof.
What does have to be born in mind is that under EU law Parkin's actions are illegal (Strasbourg Ryanair Situation - a publically owned airport (NIA is 51% public authority owned) cannot provide favourable options to transport providers at the expense of other traffic - including GA).
Has anyone actually taken the time to point this out to the airport's owners? (Namely Northumberland CC, Newcastle CC, Gateshead MBC, N Tyneside MBC, S Tyneside MBC, Sunderland CC).
Or hopefully the chap doing the reporting at the Chronicle/Journal can spot this matter.. or even the people reading this can take it to their MPs and MEPs.
One thing is for sure, John Parkin is nothing but an utter menace to General Aviation - the birthplace of Commercial Pilots... and indeed seems to be that to everyone involved in EGNT except EZY and RYR!
But the fact here is, nothing is going to happen simply talking, action has to be taken directly, somehow!
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Incidentally - I know the local auhorities are only 51?% share holders in the airport but has anyone contacted them about increases in the landing fees? I'm sure as the elected representatives of all of us who fly from the club they have a responsibility to enusre fair use of the airport?? Or am I being naive?????
Unfortuanately I am unable to get to tonights meeting - I presume the adminstrators willbe outlining there details to all club members??
Unfortuanately I am unable to get to tonights meeting - I presume the adminstrators willbe outlining there details to all club members??
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I would have thought that as we are all council tax payers and 51% of the Airport is local authority owned, the local authoities would have to listen and take stock of the situation with regards to Parkin, Either they are backing him and his policies or, no one has brought this to the attention of anyone who can do something about it. I've never written to my MP about anything so I'm as guilty as anyone of having the attitude that things will sort themselves out and, I suppose, apathetic about politics anyhow.
Is there nobody within the club membership with contact within local goverment?
Is there nobody within the club membership with contact within local goverment?
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Nice post, but important error of identification. Poor Trevor White is not martinidoc, try I Martin (doc).
Why defend KL and the other greedy instructors?
Simple, speak as you find. I have found them all to be hard working and I have no reason to believe that any of them have been dishonest.
Not sure that I have expressed the same degree of support for all the ex-committee members.
Nice post, but important error of identification. Poor Trevor White is not martinidoc, try I Martin (doc).
Why defend KL and the other greedy instructors?
Simple, speak as you find. I have found them all to be hard working and I have no reason to believe that any of them have been dishonest.
Not sure that I have expressed the same degree of support for all the ex-committee members.
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great
Well great statement Newcastle pilot,
what everyone wanted to hear about
"the real reason for the demise"
Lets hope that miss kestevan,kl,al and the rest of them
read this that now everyone will really find out what
went on behind closed doors.
great statement,
how are you topjet937k
mike
what everyone wanted to hear about
"the real reason for the demise"
Lets hope that miss kestevan,kl,al and the rest of them
read this that now everyone will really find out what
went on behind closed doors.
great statement,
how are you topjet937k
mike
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After a post like Newcastlepilot's, I can't see the meeting tonight being over before midnight.
It must depend on how much open debate is allowed by the administrators, who I suspect may just want to give us the bad news then get on with the dismantling job.Please don't take this as an "anti" post: just a realistic approach.
It must depend on how much open debate is allowed by the administrators, who I suspect may just want to give us the bad news then get on with the dismantling job.Please don't take this as an "anti" post: just a realistic approach.
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Mike
Yeh - I'm good mate. feel very down about the whole thing.
I'm still digesting the post from newcastlepilot - absolutely superb.
I'm getting in touch with a mate from Civic Centre, a local government bod, reading HST's post I though we have nothing to lose if there IS no way forward - am waiting for his call.
Regards everybody
M
Yeh - I'm good mate. feel very down about the whole thing.
I'm still digesting the post from newcastlepilot - absolutely superb.
I'm getting in touch with a mate from Civic Centre, a local government bod, reading HST's post I though we have nothing to lose if there IS no way forward - am waiting for his call.
Regards everybody
M
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Everyone,
Bring your membership cards with you tonight. I have heard that there will be two bruisers on the door tonight and they will be checking to see who is members as well as recording who attends.
Bring your membership cards with you tonight. I have heard that there will be two bruisers on the door tonight and they will be checking to see who is members as well as recording who attends.
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hi guys,
just a quick question is it true that mr butcher gave
mr lister this HUGH salary.
I heard that it was extremely high for his position
and that he was given a pound for every other flight
at the club.
Just another backdoor deal that probably the members did'nt know about.
mike
just a quick question is it true that mr butcher gave
mr lister this HUGH salary.
I heard that it was extremely high for his position
and that he was given a pound for every other flight
at the club.
Just another backdoor deal that probably the members did'nt know about.
mike
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To all members:
Hello again
I have it on good authority that the contract given to Mr Keith Lister by Mr William (Bill) Butcher was for £38,000 + £1.00 for every hour flown by club aircraft.
That came to light because Capt. Joeseph Forster "bragged" to all and sundry about it.
Good luck members.
BB
Hello again
I have it on good authority that the contract given to Mr Keith Lister by Mr William (Bill) Butcher was for £38,000 + £1.00 for every hour flown by club aircraft.
That came to light because Capt. Joeseph Forster "bragged" to all and sundry about it.
Good luck members.
BB
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Re The Administrators
We are knee deep in the brown stuff, why on earth has a high profile company with its unreal cost been appointed without the members being consulted or informed.
More sculgdugery from our self elected mis/management
Regards All
BE THERE AND SPEAK UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More sculgdugery from our self elected mis/management
Regards All
BE THERE AND SPEAK UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How come none of us were privvy to these little deals? Surely this sort of stuff has to be published in the annual accounts? Or was it a case of a little creative accounting going on?