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Old 8th Jan 2005, 10:32
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Exclamation Topjets marvellous memory

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MRG is 40 now !!!!!

Urdy Gurdy

I hope you are not suggesting Sir J should increase firearms offences .!!!!!

Noise
Just read your post, there may well be prosecutions but it will not be for posting something on here (re nasty people )

MB
Your'e not falling for TJ's blarney are you ? re "is he 40 ish"

no news may be good news.

Hopefull....

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Old 8th Jan 2005, 12:57
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I quite like the sound of a Chartiable Trust.
I'm not sure if having members run it is such a good idea on past experience though.
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Is he really 40!!
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Yes - he really is 40.
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Hope2,

I am not a member of NAC but I have been following this thread as an interested outsider. As such, I have seen no real reason to post before now. However, your suggestion that a charitable trust and a charitable organisation be set up intrigues me. How do you propose to make the objectives of such bodies satsify the Charity Commission's "Charitable Purpose" requirements?

I see you have ensured that the word "education" appears in your stated objectives. However the CC rules state that

Education in the charitable sense cannot include ........ the study of subjects which have no educational value
I wonder how they would categorise teaching people to fly?

Now that I have been drawn into posting - best wishes to the members of the NAC and good luck for the future.

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Old 8th Jan 2005, 15:14
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Thanks for that input...sounds like Charitable status isn't an option then.
Suppose we'll have to wait for an anouncement with fingers crossed
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40+ Rodders !!!


What was the dog on Z Cars Called? No using the internet...

See how good you are
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I have just heard that Elia Golfin is in the UK.

He was spotted at Heathrow. Reports say that he got off the same flight as Elvis.
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well the deadline has passed. any news anyone????? as I would quite like to start flying again!!!

I`m even starting to miss Mr Gilmours leather jacket!!!!

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Good evening gang.

GonTek - never really watched Z Cars but will give it some thought, I was young - I wasn't 40 when Z Cars used to be broadcast!

Bajadj - and I miss your Black & White shoes!!! How you doing mate?


CYA


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pretty good mate, at work right now typing in my wooden box!!!

can`t be bothered to do any entertaining right now.

has this american greek bloke bought the gaff or what??

sorry to be blunt but this saga appears to be dragging like a small dog tied by string to a ford cortina!

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Mr "Spin a Disc" !

Well man, I think it's a case of watch this space..

You are blunt! A thread like this will go on for hundreds of years now so the poor little doggy that's tied to the Cortina may need feeding, if you get my (wind) drift!

Be good!

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Hi Mu Beta & Aiglon,

Thanks for responding.
I will try to post later tonight if possible.

Cheers
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Hi gang!

GonTek - The dog on Z Cars, called Radar by any chance?

Until later!

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Hi Flyers

Mu beta - Good to see a former member likes the sound of a charitable Trust & flying club.

Perhaps more importantly is open to seeing that of the proposals being considered it is the only one offering a real future for a "True Aero club".

Quote from RMT letter sent to me.
"We have been contacted by a number of persons interested in the assets and business, or a rescue of the above company, of which you are the one.....initial offer to be submitted by..."

Perhaps if general members had been able to participate more in running the club it might still exist?

Prior to initiating this proposal, while seeking information at the airport flying club, I spoke to a lady member who was standing outside the locked doors with her young son whistfully watching the aircraft flying.they went 2 to three times a week because of his dream of flying them.
She was supprised at being asked about participating in the club! Replying "no one ever asks our oppinion! no one ever asked if we could help! yes i would love to help if i can!

Unfortunately they have been deprived of their heritage by the company crash!!!!

Charitable status is an option!
I was told on Friday by the administrator the proposal is one of the Four top ones being considered.

It is an option if present and future fliers are the recipients of charity!

It will not be an option if fliers in the region do not want to recieve it!
It will not be an option if fliers etc do not contribute or take some responsibility.

Being a charitabl organisation is an option if present Flyers etc can be charitable to each other!

IT will also require TEAMWORK and other social skills.

Can the former members work in a team? Or will that take a considerable amount of Education???

I imagine they can. planes need teamwork to fly.

This is an open invite to former & future club members to consider working together to ensure a real club develops from these unfortunate events.
It is also an open invite to any altruistic bidders to consider working as a team in the interest of future "Real Club Members"
Could you please network this to others as in the earlier excersise in the thread???

A request has been made to identify the minimum amount required in payments and terms to permit flying to resume imiediatly and time be allowed while this alternative approach is given seriouse consideration by all those effected.

This will of course requir a charitable approach by the airport authority??

It will also require more than crossed fingers and the hope that some other third party will sort it out.

It will require money to cross palms (so to speak & legally) so the administrators can pay the minimum amount.
It will require someone to jump in and join the team as i am rather ill and may not be able to complete within the time scale.

Finally I think
The 500 AA or RAC members made millions from the sale of their club!!!!
The 500 members of NAC are being sold to the highest bidder for that person to make millions from a flying school.
Are there any former general members angry enough or who care enough to do something to help???

If so please do. It was your heritage and the young flyiers future.

Ailglon;- You are correct A pure flying school would not meet the requirments for charitable status. Yet I feel you know that as part of an intergrated service delivery of an education process it would!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to here your answere to your question!
The Primary object in CC Jargon is "To improve conditions of life" (no more time I am exhausted will try to pick up tomorrow.)

Take care
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Old 10th Jan 2005, 08:36
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Hello Members:

Hope 2 Fly:

I'm sorry but what exactly are you trying to do?

I do not like the sound of your plan.... who do you actually represent here - I think people have a right to know AND what your motives are.

You are not a member, you do not fly - why pull this out of a hat?

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Hope 2 Fly:- I am sorry to hear that you are ill...
Unfortunately, however, I cannot hold out much prospect of someone else pitching in with cash for your plan if you cannot.
If there were people willing and able to do that, they would have done it long before the Club went into Administration.
If you are not able to sort out the finances yourself, I do not see much hope for your proposal.
I know nothing about Charitable Trusts etc, but Aiglon seemed quite sure a Flying School could not fulfil the criteria, even using the educational standpoint.
I must say I'm beginning to lose hope a bit...as no definate information has been forthcoming.

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I know, I txt'd it to you yesterday !!

Any news anyone ?

UL 730 :

You are right in thinking subs may be collected eletronically ie:
direct debit, No fault of the club but it may be a good idea one and all to check !!!! ( and cancel )

Regards

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I believe the Club collected some subs by direct debit.

My next one was due 02 February 05.

Sadly - just cancelled until the dust settles.


Just a thought
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Hope2fly,

Ailglon;- You are correct A pure flying school would not meet the requirments for charitable status. Yet I feel you know that as part of an intergrated service delivery of an education process it would!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don't presume to tell me what I "know". I know what I posted before:

Education in the charitable sense cannot include ........ the study of subjects which have no educational value
You go on to say:

The Primary object in CC Jargon is "To improve conditions of life"
The relevant Charity Commission document (CC21) does not refer to "conditions of life"


I would love to here your answere to your question!
I think if you reread my original post, together with this one, you should be able to guess my answer What I am not at all sure about is whether you are able to answer my question.

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Old 10th Jan 2005, 15:06
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Where is newcastlepilot?

How comes ALL his posts have gone?

Ever since Rodney ID'd him he's just vanished.

Maybe he's not so brave now that everyone knows who he is.
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