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ORAC 17th Aug 2020 16:44

Cannot access PPRuNe due to the Trustarc GDPR login cookie pop-up
 
Pprune has obviously just updated their security/GDPR software and its preventing me accessing the site.

When I access the site I get a window headed "We Value Your Privacy" and saying a list of items has to be selected Yes or No before proceeding. Unfortunately there is also the classical spinning circle and no list, so I get stuck at that point.

I have deleted all cookies and site history and the same occurs when I try again, I have deleted all and then rebooted the iPad - same result.

Anyone any suggestions?

p.s. Same happened here on my iMac but it shows the lists, allows me to select yes and proceed to the site.

Hermite 17th Aug 2020 16:56

Cookie popup
 
The popup with the cookie / privacy questions seems to have changed today. Unfortunately this doesn't work correctly with Safari on the mac. It is fine with Firefox, but that isn't the browser that I normally use (Safari is the Apple supplied browser on the mac, so I'm guessing that I'm not the only one with the problem). Can it be fixed please?



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....62d04e96a2.png

ORAC 17th Aug 2020 17:02

OK, solved by going into Safari-advanced-Delete all website data.

VP959 17th Aug 2020 17:06

Not just an iPad, I cannot access PPRuNe from my usual browser on a PC, either. To be able to post this I've had to fire up an old Windows 7 PC, connect using a VPN and that's enabled me to try and see what's going on.

The problem seems to be with something called Trustarc. It's not completing a script, so hangs with some sort of GPDR compliance window, just displaying the "loading" thing. My limited looking around seems to show that it's definitely the Trustarc thing that's causing the site to just lock up. I've tried clearing cookies, restarting the browser, all the usual stuff, but the only way I've been able to get in to post this is by firing up an old, and fairly insecure, Win 7 machine, that's running Palemoon as the browser. Even then I have had to "allow everything" to get this to work.

The Trustarc script hang is before the lists show, so there is no way to access anything at all. The whole site is greyed out behind the Trustarc pop-up, with no way that I can find to clear it.

Kiltrash 17th Aug 2020 17:09

I'm getting the screen shot on my mobile. Not every time
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....186f509533.png

BDAttitude 17th Aug 2020 17:31

Yes, broken here on Chromium as well. Circle of death.

VP959 17th Aug 2020 17:33

Cannot access PPRuNe from PC running Firefox
 
Same issue as reported in the thread re: access from an iPad. There's a problem with the new Trustarc GDPR thing, that seems to cause a script to hang, blocking the site completely. This is a screenshot showing the problem (the "loading" wheel just perpetually spins):


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....06f473c20d.jpg

Clearing cookies, all cached data, disabling all browser add-ons, restarting the browser etc doesn't fix it, the only way I can get access to PPRuNe at the moment is by using an old PC that's running Palemoon on Windows 7. It seems as if it may be browser specific, although in this post there's mention of a similar problem with an iPad: https://www.pprune.org/computer-inte...rune-ipad.html

I've run out of things to try, now, so am guessing that it may be something within the Trustarc feature that isn't 100% compatible with all browsers. In case it's any help in diagnosis, the Trustarc pop-up didn't appear at all on this old PC running the Palemoon browser, it seems only to pop-up in Firefox (haven't yet tried Safari, will have a look as soon as my wife's stopped using the Mac).

stevef 17th Aug 2020 17:46

I had the same until I logged in, then it disappeared.
Running Opera on W10.

andytug 17th Aug 2020 17:49

It hangs on my ipad mini, but can get in past the prompt on Firefox mobile on my Android phone. Took two goes for the options to appear though.

VP959 17th Aug 2020 17:52

The snag I have is that the Firefox browser just locks up, as in that photo, so won't let me log in. For some odd reason Palemoon seems unaffected, no idea why. I've been able to log in on this old Win 7 machine, using Palemoon, with no problem. However, if I try and use Firefox, even on this Win 7 machine, I get the same screen as above, just locked up with that pop-up permanently trying to load. I've tried over a dozen times now, clearing everything down, restarting the browser, etc, but with the same result.

stevef 17th Aug 2020 17:54

When I came back the box was there again and the page lightly greyed out. I mouse clicked a margin and everything came back to normal.

NRU74 17th Aug 2020 17:55

iPad using Safari I can’t access
No problem using DuckDuckGo

VP959 17th Aug 2020 17:58

Just tried that. Sadly didn't work, the screen is still greyed out, with that pop-up box trying to load. This time it did let me log in before locking up, though, and I thought for a moment the problem had been fixed! I'm at a loss to try and understand exactly what's going wrong, but suspect it must be that Trustarc thing trying to do something that the browser can't cope with. In my case, the browser that's giving the problem is Firefox 79.0, so it's up to date.


VP959 17th Aug 2020 18:17

Further to this, I can now confirm that it seems to be region specific. I'm currently logged in using Firefox, with no problems at all, but I had to use a VPN so that it looks as if I'm in Canada (I'm not, I'm in the UK).

I think this confirms that the problem lies with the Trustarc GDPR gizmo, as that seems to try to detect the region of the world you log in from, and if it thinks you're in the EU it will try and pop-up the windows that seems to just hang, and block access to PPRuNe.

So, the workaround, for anyone having this problem, and who is currently located within the EU, is to use a VPN to spoof their location so that they appear to be somewhere else. Don't think it matters much where, as long as it's outside the EU.

Cafe john 17th Aug 2020 18:25

Just had this issue with Google Chrome - CTRL F5 to force reload and then clicking the page reload icon at top left cleared it for me......

NRU74 17th Aug 2020 18:31

Using a late(ish) iPad
DuckDuckGo No problem with or without a VPN
Safari with a VPN (ipvanish) can’t get on
Start Page ditto

VP959 17th Aug 2020 18:36


Originally Posted by NRU74 (Post 10863578)
Using a late(ish) iPad
DuckDuckGo No problem with or without a VPN
Safari with a VPN (ipvanish) can’t get on
Start Page ditto

If you use a VPN service that allows you to select an apparent location outwith the EU I think you should find it works OK. I used NordVPN, and with my apparent location set to anywhere within the EU I get the lock-up problem, but as soon as I select an apparent location outwith the EU (i.e Canada) it works fine. I'm pretty sure that the rogue element, perhaps via a routine update, on the Trustarc thing that the forum is using is only blocking site access to some browsers for some users located within the EU. The odd thing is that it works fine on this old Windows 7 PC using Palemoon as the browser. No idea why.

Hermite 17th Aug 2020 18:40

I'm in the UK (currently EU regulations I think) and as I noted at the start the problem (at least for me) is browser related. I can scroll down the box in Firefox, but not in Safari.

VP959 17th Aug 2020 18:48

Definitely browser specific for me, too. Palemoon on a old Win 7 machine is fine, Firefox gets the blocking and hung pop-up every time, unless I use a VPN to pretend to be outwith the EU, when Firefox works fine, with no problems.

Seems to me that the apparent location triggers the Trustarc thing initially, so no matter what browser you're using if PPRuNe thinks your outwith the EU then the blocking pop-up won't appear. If you do seem to be within the EU, then it seems that some browsers cannot deal with whatever it is that has changed within the Trustarc GPDR compliance feature. My guess is that Trustarc may have updated something today, and broken some core functionality with some browsers.

Planet Basher 17th Aug 2020 18:48

I just had the same, W10 and Chrome. It appears to be a cookie problem.

When I allowed second party cookies the pop up worked properly and allowed me to block the cookies. When the pop up disappeared I then reset Chrome to stop second party cookies. All seems to be working normally now.


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