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22nd Jan 2024, 08:06
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Posted By DaveJ75

You might want to google '2014 Glasgow bin lorry...

You might want to google '2014 Glasgow bin lorry crash'... Bloke who was was pole bending that didn't go down...
22nd Jan 2024, 07:37
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Posted By dervish

Those who think Andy Hill is solely to blame...

Those who think Andy Hill is solely to blame haven't been paying attention to pprune over the past 20 years!

I believe the AAIB report was not allowed in evidence? Yet was discussed at length here...
21st Jan 2024, 09:09
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Posted By falcon900

The point is that there are others whose actions...

The point is that there are others whose actions deserve scrutiny. I am most definitely not in the camp of those who may be seeking to exonerate him, but it would be fair to say that his actions have...
20th Jan 2024, 09:54
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Posted By GeeRam

The Gnat crash at Car Fest was barely 5 weeks...

The Gnat crash at Car Fest was barely 5 weeks before the Shoreham crash.
19th Jan 2024, 03:07
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Posted By typerated

and the CAA is also guilty for letting him (and...

and the CAA is also guilty for letting him (and others like him ) be approved for low level aerobatics in front of a crowd with minimal currency. I'm surprised he was deemed current enough not to be...
19th Jan 2024, 02:58
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Posted By tucumseh

Idle B (and Diff) It's not that I 'may very...

Idle B (and Diff)

It's not that I 'may very well be right', it's that I'm simply repeating the conclusions of he AAIB, which I agree with. And where they did not comment or explain, I'm relaying...
18th Jan 2024, 20:09
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Posted By langleybaston

As mere self-loading freight, I keep up with this...

As mere self-loading freight, I keep up with this sad thread from time to time.

If ever "an accident waiting to happen" has ever applied to any accident, this one is surely it.

Unserviceable...
18th Jan 2024, 17:05
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Posted By tucumseh

I'm afraid your claim as to serviceability is...

I'm afraid your claim as to serviceability is wrong.

The AAIB report confirmed it was neither airworthy, serviceable, nor fit for purpose. The pilot was not told this.

Regardless of any...
18th Jan 2024, 16:30
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Posted By pasta

In my view, the culpability either lies with the...

In my view, the culpability either lies with the people responsible for every layer of the Swiss Cheese, or with none of them. If one party can claim that their error was only consequential because...
18th Jan 2024, 15:59
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Posted By falcon900

The point is that whatever happened in the air,...

The point is that whatever happened in the air, the facts demonstrate with complete clarity that AH was able to survive the crash.
The only reason there are fatalities is that people were allowed...
17th Jan 2024, 05:12
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Posted By CISTRS

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...

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THIS
16th Jan 2024, 21:19
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Posted By typerated

I think the CAA having pushed the display line...

I think the CAA having pushed the display line further out is a poor ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. How much more safe is a more distant display line?
It's really easy to bust - diving...
16th Jan 2024, 19:56
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Posted By tiger1411

From the mid-90's onwards the volume of vintage...

From the mid-90's onwards the volume of vintage jets being displayed publically in private hands grew steadily year on year. Arguably also steadily increasing in performance and complexity, including...
16th Jan 2024, 18:03
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Posted By Jwscud

Having watched the documentary, I think a lot of...

Having watched the documentary, I think a lot of people at Shoreham Airport/Gatwick will be very happy with it. AH is an easy target and they went for him good and proper. Barring a very brief...
16th Jan 2024, 11:58
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Posted By KrisKringle

It is called 'outcome bias'. I wouldn't...

It is called 'outcome bias'.

I wouldn't bother wasting your time reading through this thread; it is full of nonsense written by 'keyboard warriors' biased by preconceived ideas, hearsay and...
16th Jan 2024, 10:59
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Posted By DogTailRed2

So when does a fatal crash become a bad fatal...

So when does a fatal crash become a bad fatal crash?
Many pilots have fatally crashed. The pilot at Shoreham killed people on the ground. So why does Shoreham make the pilot a worse pilot than all...
16th Jan 2024, 09:01
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Posted By dervish

A lot of recent comments imply the pilot denied...

A lot of recent comments imply the pilot denied making a balls of the manoeuvre and by being found not guilty somehow managed to persuade a jury he didn't. The truth is he admitted his error so why...
3rd Jan 2024, 07:16
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Posted By DaveJ75

The report certainly burned a lot of pages on...

The report certainly burned a lot of pages on those issues. For me the bigger picture is that the despite previous accidents and close calls, the regulator still enabled an environment in which...
2nd Jan 2024, 18:43
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Posted By tiger1411

Yes, I was there that day and saw it happen, my...

Yes, I was there that day and saw it happen, my thoughts are exactly the same as yours. Shoreham was more than just a failure by a single individual, the rules and regs regarding "vintage" jet...
29th Dec 2023, 11:18
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Posted By superplum

Is it me, or has anyone else noticed the...

Is it me, or has anyone else noticed the parallels to the Post Office Fraud saga?
:sad:
12th Feb 2023, 05:38
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Posted By tucumseh

There is a distinction between negligence and...

There is a distinction between negligence and gross negligence. Negligence is commonly defined as ‘the inadvertent taking of an unjustifiable risk’. Whereas, gross negligence is ‘a conscious act or...
9th Feb 2023, 21:53
Replies: 1,144
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Posted By KrisKringle

No it can't. Maybe this will help you...

No it can't. Maybe this will help you understand.

Was the aircraft airworthy………No
Did the pilot screw up……………Maybe if he was cognitively alert; but not if he was suffering a physiological...
9th Feb 2023, 20:05
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Posted By Chugalug2

Quite why you feel compelled to deliver this ad...

Quite why you feel compelled to deliver this ad hominem attack on someone who knows more than any here (please step forward if I have it wrong) about UK Military Airworthiness and the scandal of it...
9th Feb 2023, 15:26
Replies: 1,144
Views: 616,034
Posted By Jwscud

I think the elephant in the room is not so much...

I think the elephant in the room is not so much airworthiness as display safety. It being an entirely foreseeable event that an aircraft crash on its display line, appropriate mitigations were not...
9th Feb 2023, 08:50
Replies: 1,144
Views: 616,034
Posted By tucumseh

It is sometimes better to read the facts. ...

It is sometimes better to read the facts.

The pilot pleaded not guilty to gross negligence manslaughter. He admitted the errors in the manouevre, but couldn't explain them except for the CI...
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