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zerosum69 28th February 2009 09:36

Get real
 
ok, clearly this will never happen, but it has generated publicity and got a few people wet on here.

Yep Ryanair is a bus service and you're a number, but on a short haul flight, thats what i want. £30 quid all in to get the alps and back on a shiny new jet. Amazing. If that isnt good enough for you, what is?

To the people moaning about the hidden costs - even if i pay an extra few quid to take a bag or get priority boarding or whatever, so what? 95% of the time its still far cheaper than your precious and not so great as in the good old days legacy carriers. Am i really going to fly BA or BMI instead and pay much more because they give me a sandwich and a gin for 'free'?

The AvgasDinosaur 28th February 2009 11:22

What a monumental PR coup for the wicked Irishman. How many publics have seen and heard all this hullabaloo and picked out the repetitive mantra "Ryanair" and "lowering fares". Got to give the grasping b@stard his due he can work the PR trick. It's like your council tax November = significant rise, December = 12-15%, January- February= 13%, March = 7% April = phew only 7% we did quite well out of that.
It is nothing to do with loo charges it is about getting everyone to look away while he punishes those passengers without internet ( the elderly) by scrapping check in desks ( reduction in staff as well) and tightens the thumb screws on passengers with baggage ( cabin ) and luggage ( hold). He must at this moment be trying desperately to find some revenue use for all that empty space under the floors. Perhaps individual pee tubes at a £1 per shot and extra seats where the loos used to be.
Not catch me with an RYR flight number in my log book.
Be lucky
David

P.S. Please may I nominate

Ryanair's New Safety Card - Yours to read for just 2.50
by halfpint for the PPrune post of the year award.
Thanks

OFSO 28th February 2009 12:57

A far-eastern based friend commented as follows:

There was shock and horror on the radio today about him thinking about charging passengers to use the toilets on his planes, it kind of amused me, I would love to see all those women who hog the toilets on long haul flights charged !!
I got caught once in a queue of about 10 of them, each one spent about 15 minutes in there, some returning wearing different clothes to when they went in. There should be a timer on the door so it springs open after a reasonable time....
Of course on the return flight from places like India and Bali the airlines could make a killing by charging due to the number of passengers with stomach complaints !

Guest 112233 28th February 2009 13:25

Bog Standard
 
The publicity has worked - I beleive that the Bearded one was on R4 the other day - Is it a bit of "Me too" from the chief executive of Rryanair - Imagine the effect of the trumpet sounding another on time arrival gingle on all those bursting bladders as the reverse thrust is applied after a energetic landing. His statement; by even considering the inhuman idea, belies a contempt for his customers that means that the company is going one way and its not up.

CAT III

Plasticvicar 28th February 2009 14:48

Legallity?
 
Surely, if he wants to go on serving food and drink on his aircraft, then he has a legal requirement to provide free toilet facilities?

Surely the lost revenue from refreshments would far outweigh that gained from toilet use, given the short-haul nature of Ryan's flights.

Seat62K 28th February 2009 18:29

What do Ryanair's shareholders think about this latest episode, I wonder?

sail4evr 28th February 2009 22:32

easy enough to beat
 
everyone just block the door open after they finish using and leave

Selfloading 1st March 2009 08:50


Originally Posted by BladePilot (Post 4751951)
SF
When you get back from your trip please update us on the real cost of the flight after you've been hit by any of the extras. Did you include the credit card charge in your £20 posted?
Will you be taking your own catering with you? and how far from your actual destination will you be when Ryanair deliver you? will you still need to pay out for a long coach/taxi (or car hire) to get you to your final destination?
Fair play to you if you can really do it for £20 per head or less, you can't argue with a bargain basement fare like that.

Hi, yes I did include all charges, the airport is 9 Km from the city centre, we rarely eat on short flights anyway but I added £6 for a coffee and chocolate bar, I've removed my personal details for obvious reasons but here you go.
http://i40.tinypic.com/243i688.jpg

Seat62K 1st March 2009 09:32

If MOL wants to do this he should allow passengers to buy loo credits in advance of flying (on the website when booking). If one credit in each direction were the "default" option many would end up buying them without realising. Those who chose to opt out could get a pop-up asking them "Are you sure you won't need to use the toilet?", much the same as happens now if you opt not to take Ryanair's insurance. Anxious passengers who are worried that they might need to "go", passengers with prostate problems etc. would be a lucrative source of additional income. Paying in advance would, of course, be cheaper than paying for "going" when onboard. Passengers who pay could be given a PIN to use. This would have the benefit of the airline not having to collect coins from toilet doors. (Moreover, having to remove coins once the coin boxes became full might have an adverse impact on tight turn-round times.) People who pay in advance but do not need to "go" would be like the airline's no-shows. There would be a problem ensuring that these passengers did not give their PIN to someone else. I'm not sure how this would be policed. Perhaps cabin staff could ensure that the person using the PIN was the person named on the confirmation printout. After all, all passengers will have photo ID on them.

Taking the idea further, since Ryanair's aircraft have three toilets, one could be designated as a "premium" loo, with upgraded facilities (and fee) to match.

The more I think about this the more promising it looks.

dicksorchard 1st March 2009 23:37

2 pence return - so i don't mind a p-ss for a £1
 
Hey Self loading ...I'm flying from Manchester to Dussledorf next Saturday with Ryanair and it cost me 2 pence return !

So i'm with you mate ,,,If the price is right and when i fly Ryanair it usually is ..
Im booking with Big Mikes mob !

As my other half has a Halifax visa electron card ...2 pence was all that i was charged , no tax's nuthin and if ya want proof i will show you all .

Also flying from Liverpool to Ibiza £16.50 return end of march .

Then a triple flight Liverpool to Palma ( £10 ) then Palma to Gerona ( £5) then Gerona back to Liverpool ( £12 ) .

In 5 years of flying with Ryanair i have had 3 cancellations of which 2 where weather related and the other Strike related .

So if it saves me , my family and my business money especially with the credit crunch a £1 for a p--s aint going to break the bank ...but seriously i can't see it happenin because of health & safety regs etc etc

besides most people would'nt pay on principle ....

if it happens i will have to eat my bookings !

Sober Lark 2nd March 2009 09:59

Vomit and soiling charge
 
I'd have thought we would have seen a Stag & Hen party vomit and soiling charge before a pee charge. Automatic deduction of soiling charge from credit card used to pay for the ticket. Slight reduction if you pay online before you travel of course.

zapzap 2nd March 2009 10:30

Not Me.
 
Whilst there are other options at similar, or less cost, I wont be flying with an airline that openly treats its customers with such contempt. At least carriers such as Easyjet give a modicum of customer service.

Selfloading 2nd March 2009 17:02

dicksorchard, good going mate, Ryanair have allowed me to travel to so many places I would never have been able to visit when the rip off airlines had the monopoly :ok:

BladePilot 2nd March 2009 18:12

SF Well done and thanks for sharing the info with us, fair play to you I'm very happy for you:ok:

The devil is in the detail though isn't it amazing that MOL is charging you more to use your card than he is for the seat! and I wonder just how much actually goes to the CC company?

Have you read 'Ruinair' by Paul Kilduff? you'd love it, all about a guy trying to do the whole FR network for less than £300.:)

Selfloading 2nd March 2009 18:37


Originally Posted by BladePilot (Post 4759529)
SF Well done and thanks for sharing the info with us, fair play to you I'm very happy for you:ok:

The devil is in the detail though isn't it amazing that MOL is charging you more to use your card than he is for the seat! and I wonder just how much actually goes to the CC company?

Have you read 'Ruinair' by Paul Kilduff? you'd love it, all about a guy trying to do the whole FR network for less than £300.:)

No I have not read that, sounds interesting I'll have a look for it, yeah the CC fee is a rip off, there is away round it if I could be bothered, but I probably won't be using Ryanair much in the future, Virgin Blue and Jetstar will be where I'll be trying to find my bargains :ok:

Take care and happy landings.

fendant 2nd March 2009 20:57

Is seating still free on mol estair?

Need to go to London next week

rmac 2nd March 2009 21:17

Gave them a try recently on BTS-EDI route as all other options, including from VIE are via somewhere and make it a very long trip, and it was a very short weekend. The trip was OK but to be honest way below the standard of many other lo-co's that I have tried. Cattle class truly would be an apt description.

Had to smile at the small print in the ticket which would test a well qualified corporate lawyer. Particularly the "extra-bag" fee which incidentally doesn't come with any extra luggage weight, i.e just gives you the original 15kg divided by 1/2 or 3 bags at 10/20 or 40 Euro, strikes me as being deliberately misleading with intent to catch out unwary travellers to be billed excess baggage allowance at fees which are often higher per kilogram than the the fare per person per seat. It comes very close, but not close enough to "theft by deception". I did ask a Ryan air staff member if they got many takers willing to spend the equivalent of a full seat fare to divide 15kg in to three very small bags, she assured me that this happened quite often (which I doubt).

In any case, come Easter, when I need to take the kids and all their gear for Easter to EDI, I shall be paying a bit more and travelling longer in order to have a reasonable level of convenience.

And for the poster that said he/she has seen lots of Europe for a pittance thanks to Ryanair, you must either be one of the ones whose contirbution to the local economy on arrival is lamentable or one of the ones I see being regularly dragged off by the local constabulary for p1ssing in the fountain in the main square.

draughtsman99 2nd March 2009 23:18


And for the poster that said he/she has seen lots of Europe for a pittance thanks to Ryanair, you must either be one of the ones whose contirbution to the local economy on arrival is lamentable or one of the ones I see being regularly dragged off by the local constabulary for p1ssing in the fountain in the main square.
How the hell do you get to that conclusion. I know at least one minister of religeon and a medical Doctor who do the same. Their comment is that if they don't waste money on the carrier they can spend more on Hotels and food at their destination.

Selfloading 3rd March 2009 07:14


And for the poster that said he/she has seen lots of Europe for a pittance thanks to Ryanair, you must either be one of the ones whose contirbution to the local economy on arrival is lamentable or one of the ones I see being regularly dragged off by the local constabulary for p1ssing in the fountain in the main square.
And you must be the kind of insufferable ignorant idiot who makes sweeping statements about people you know nothing about :mad:

danielson81 3rd March 2009 07:52

I think this sums up things to come.


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