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SimonPaddo 18th Jul 2022 15:30

It is very quiet, quieter than the usual Farnborough biz jets, even directly overhead chez moi, which the biz jets don't do. A350 and E190 equally impressive

oceancrosser 20th Jul 2022 20:36


Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 11263664)

Ah, me see. It´s the Boeing XLLL! Or did they turn in the wrong direction? :}

PAXboy 20th Jul 2022 20:43

Given the opportunty, most airliners can do that but it always looks good in the press release.

DaveReidUK 20th Jul 2022 21:20


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 11264917)
Given the opportunty, most airliners can do that but it always looks good in the press release.

And in the media, where a FPA of 30-ish degrees miraculously becomes "near-vertical". :O

Uplinker 20th Jul 2022 22:18

Many moons ago, not long after the Airbus crash at that airshow, where instead of a touch and go, they ploughed into trees beyond the runway, and following a documentary about the crash involving supposedly unresponsive elevators; Mrs Uplinker and I vowed never to set foot on an Airbus.

Fast forward 13 years and I am now a pilot, doing a type rating on the A320. Learning about the FBW and other systems, I realise what a well designed and well engineered machine it is. and that the test pilots who crashed that Airbus had not done their class room studies very diligently.

Being a passenger at the rear of an A330; the fuselage flexing one can see on a turbulent approach is very alarming, but one has to trust that the structural people have done their due diligence. I hope the same is true of the 787.

DaveReidUK 21st Jul 2022 06:39


Originally Posted by Uplinker (Post 11264960)
Many moons ago, not long after the Airbus crash at that airshow, where instead of a touch and go, they ploughed into trees beyond the runway, and following a documentary about the crash involving supposedly unresponsive elevators; Mrs Uplinker and I vowed never to set foot on an Airbus.

Fast forward 13 years and I am now a pilot, doing a type rating on the A320. Learning about the FBW and other systems, I realise what a well designed and well engineered machine it is. and that the test pilots who crashed that Airbus had not done their class room studies very diligently.

If you mean the Habsheim crash, the the flyby was performed by two Air France training captains rather than test pilots (with 130 charter passengers on board).

Smudge's Lot 21st Jul 2022 13:57

What "Structural problems" do you mean?
Do you mean the production problems that Boeing have had at Charleston?

Flown the 787 for over 8 years now and never had any problems at all!

G SXTY 25th Jul 2022 11:04

I’ve been flying it for a while & have been in and out of Mexico City many times.

The trickiest bit of the 787 is getting it set up to go flying - once we start moving it all gets a lot easier. :ok: It’s a very friendly aircraft that looks after me, with cabin air quality that’s in a different league to previous generations of Boeings. It has very few ‘gotchas’ and comes with more safety related kit and toys than anything else I’ve ever flown.

And as for flying out of MEX - I’d suggest that aircraft type should be the least of your worries…

James 1077 25th Jul 2022 21:57

Flown in the 787 a few times now. Nice aircraft as a passenger: good sized windows, reasonably quiet, roomy even in economy (although much of this is down to operator). It isn't as good as the A380 or A350 but would choose it over a 777 every day of the week.

Only plane that you'll struggle to get me on is the 737-Max. Will be a good few years before I book a flight on one, and most likely will need me to have an aircraft change after booking, and a flight I have to take so can't refuse to board, before I get onboard one.

RevBod 1st Aug 2022 22:14


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11263738)
It's certainly very quiet. :O

Did not sound that quiet when doing a steep bank a few hundred feet above me during validation week. In fact the screeching noise on bank was a bit disturbing as somebody standing underneath it.


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