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The NHS app doesn't show anything like a QR code which would link to a URL and allow for cross-verification |
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davidjohnson6
Absolutely nothing, but then this is the UK we are talking about where half-arsed attempts are all our governments know. They have provided proof of vaccine status, whether it meets the needs of other countries is neither here nor there, the UK has come up with something to tick a box. You may be able to add the results to a much larger database which is then recognised internationally (Such as IATA) but without any way of it being officially verified by the NHS, there isn't much point in that either. The system is open to massive fraud. |
Apart from the fact that the app doesn't work in the way the post you have quoted describes.
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I am UK based. England.
My App showed the QR code from Monday 17th. I can also send it to my email as a pdf for printing. It can also be accessed via Patient Access, but your surgery needs to be signed up to that. Many are. Not sure about Wales and Scotland. |
If we have to use the NHS app, how does that work for those who were vaccinated overseas? Hopefully the IATA travel pass gains some traction...
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EU plans to lift Covid quarantine rules for vaccinated from 1 July
Deadline set for all 27 EU countries to accept digital passport in time to enjoy a ‘safe and relaxing summer’ The starting pistol has been fired on a “relaxing” summer holiday season for people living in the EU from 1 July, as Brussels proposed lifting all quarantine obligations on those who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19. From Tuesday 1st June, a system will be ready to allow member states to issue a digital Covid passport to citizens proving their status and freeing them up to travel. With infection rates on a downward trajectory across the bloc, a deadline has been set for 1st July for all 27 EU countries to accept the documentation as sufficient proof of vaccination for restrictions to be lifted. A negative test or proof of having recovered from infection will confer the same rights on the holder of a certificate. The European Commission has proposed a standard validity period for tests: 72 hours before travel for PCR tests and 48 hours for rapid antigen tests. |
Regarding apps, etc, the French app (TousAntiCovid) displays the QR code once you are fully vaccinated...there's also a option to download/print a paper version at home off the health system website...all we need to know now is whether this stuff really works across borders....
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We seem to be governed by people more interested in hypothetical problems than dealing with the real world.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rapped-say-mps Despite the fact that vaccines appear to be less effective than we might hope I would suggest that Covid passports are already a month late. |
Looks like the vaccinated will be able to travel freely within Europe from July 1, as long as they avoid the UK and the most eastern states.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...-need-to-know/ https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...s-from-july-1/ |
The EU's vaccine passport, its Digital Covid Certificate, is being rolled out across all 27 nations - but what does it mean for UK travellers heading to Europe?
BBC: The EU’s vaccine passport and what it means for travel |
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Heathrow to pilot fast-track lanes for vaccinated arrivals
Airline industry steps up pressure on ministers to open up quarantine-free travel for amber countries Under a pilot programme to be launched this week, passengers from selected destinations will be able to upload their coronavirus vaccination certificate before boarding. On arrival at the airport, they will then be directed to dedicated lanes at the border to speed their passage through immigration. The Guardian |
Thailand are issuing paper vaccination passports. Requirements quite simple. Jabs, passport, air ticket, book appointments on line, pitch up at designated place (including VTBS), pay 50 Baht and vaccination passport issued on the spot. Whether anyone will accept it is another matter!
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PAXboy
This is the same airline industry that's still mandating the use of masks after July 19 despite telling us how super efficient their HEPA filters are at removing the virus? |
They've probably been advised by lawyers to use the 'belt and braces' approach to precautions so as to minimise any chance of transmission by exuberant passengers in close proximity over some hours. As fantastic as HEPA filters are, they aren't miracle workers. The need to get the cashflow going again is critical, any more serious stoppages due to covid will kill more of them off I fear.
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack
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They've probably been advised by lawyers to use the 'belt and braces' approach to precautions so as to minimise any chance of transmission by exuberant passengers in close proximity over some hours. As fantastic as HEPA filters are, they aren't miracle workers. The need to get the cashflow going again is critical, any more serious stoppages due to covid will kill more of them off I fear.
I agree this is all knee jerk at the moment. Any possible enforcement will be by means of the cumbersome Civil Law. The Police will therefore not get involved, as now, due to the legislation being withdrawn. Say a huge number of their customers become against them on this issue, have they costed that out?. I see this morning the airports are trying to get By Laws introduced to force masks. Oh Dear..that is s very long and costly procedure and can be challenged. Seemingly they already know that, as they say if that`s not possible then they will ask people to wear them. Now thats the way to get co operation, as with the airlines..Threats/mandatory blah blah is another quick way over the edge. |
where do you get these numbers from?
I've looked at the Yellow Card reports and can't see anything like that especially the number of blinded (never mentioned at all) I know 5 people have died around here from Covid as well as a family member but not one person with a severe reaction. Worst reported was slight stiffness in the arm for 24 hours. perhaps we'll file this with your pro Russian stuff in the military thread? |
I have deleted two posts that caused Asturias56 to write a reply. I leave his post here because I too know the reality of Covid 19. I have family working front line NHS, I know people who have had it and those who have died.
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I read warnigs of people choosing cheaper covid tests and not getting the results back, or not in time. Reports of web sites with low prices that, just like cheap air fares are NOT cheap. The UK govt has had to back pedal on some of the companies and prices they have espoused were cheaper, when user feedback pointed out the significant problems. I have not linked the articles but careful research is needed. I have no doubt that many are charging exhorbitant prices but if you don't get an accurate test, when you need it?
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