Has a cure for stupity been invented yet ?
Woman opens emergency exit and climbs out onto wing to cool off !
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There is something called a Darwin Award which cures repetition of stupidity. Any good?
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 10878956)
There is something called a Darwin Award which cures repetition of stupidity. Any good?
Now, if she'd done the same thing at 30,000ft, she would have been a shoe-in for an honourable mention. |
If she'd have done the same thing at 30,000 feet, she'd be stronger than the Incredible Hulk.
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I think tat despite more information swirling around our heads these days, 'we' are in many ways more stupid than out predecessors. She was too hot in a room, therefore you open a door to cool down. Just not onboard a plane or train or bus.
That she wasn't under the influence of drink or drugs and was with children in her care, can only suggest that she's of low intelligence, or being kind became disorientated and acted on impulse. |
Nothing new here. Our customers opened the window/exit quite often in our DC3s, doing the Arabian Gulf milk runs back in the days. On the ground and occasionally in flight. It wasn't difficult; the exit was hinged at the bottom and all that was need was to unlock the handle and push.
The practice pre-dated the presence of cabin crew, but continued after they became mandatory. Sometimes the steward would notice a window was open, sometimes not. I have to admit, though, that no-one actually stepped out on to the wing, on the ground or airborne. |
Vic Norman should give her a call, he's always on the lookout for new wingwalkers...
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I need to watch Wall-E again.
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Originally Posted by Runaway Gun
(Post 10878973)
If she'd have done the same thing at 30,000 feet, she'd be stronger than the Incredible Hulk.
We made it 9 tonnes... |
I notice from the video she is wearing a facemask, under her chin. So the cabin crew appear to be calling her inside to tell her off for not wearing her mask correctly. If i were her husband I would use the video as evidence for divorce procedings, on the grounds of incompatibility. I have the all the brain cells, and she has not a single one. Incompatible.
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Stupid, of course, but perhaps on a par with whoever allocated her to an emergency exit seat. That's probably unfair comment 'cos 'stupids' don't necessarily look different, but there seems to be a general lack of interest in the flight safety aspect of exit row seating.
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Originally Posted by Cornish Jack
(Post 10879111)
Stupid, of course, but perhaps on a par with whoever allocated her to an emergency exit seat.
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Makes you wonder if it runs in the family. What was her husband doing when his wife said "I'm going to open the emergency exit and go out on the wing" ?
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What type of plane was it?
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This type of exit is fitted to 737 7/800
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When she got back in, she reported to her husband that fuel in the left wing was just above tabs.
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Good thing it was not on A320, if I’m not mistaken, opening any over wings doors will deploy the slide as they are always in the armed position.
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I’ve listened to many war stories from veteran flight attendants over the years and sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.
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Let's hope she banned from ALL airlines for her stupidity
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On the video she appears to be sitting on the rear section of the wing. How about calling flaps 40 :E
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Originally Posted by 70 Mustang
(Post 10879454)
Was the APU off to save fuel? How long sitting there suffering? i’m not excusing her, just curious.
those doors will be locked in flight! They lock with either engine running, air/ground sensors indicate in flight, thrust levers (both) advanced. https://www.travelpulse.com/news/air...-of-plane.html |
Unfortunately I don't believe all that weird. In the millions of miles I have flown, my wife and I were once on a flight to Cancun where we had an already inebriated white female passenger seated as the 3rd in our row. The flight attendants continued to sell her more beer although obviously she was already well lit. When we landed she said something like, "Well done", and pulled out a cigarette and lit it. No action by the flight attendants until we were deplaning and she walked by the attendant telling us goodbye at the door. Seeing the lit cigarette in her hand finally captured the attendants attention and she was reigned in. So did this Ukrainian lady have a mental disorder? Was she not familiar with airliners? And the pictures show the window folded straight up! Obviously that gets it out of the way but I thought 737-800s had plug escapes over the wing that you pulled the locking device, took the window in and placed over the seats in the row in front or back. That's why I read the card each flight to know how the escape doors work on each different plane. And the 737 doesn't have an escape chute - the wing is so low and the crews job is to lower the flaps to make an easy slide to the ground.
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Originally Posted by NWA SLF
(Post 10879558)
I thought 737-800s had plug escapes over the wing that you pulled the locking device, took the window in and placed over the seats in the row in front or back. .
The side effect is of course that a random person could also open the exit in a flash and go for a stroll on the wing, without cc even having a time to react. |
Originally Posted by NWA SLF
(Post 10879558)
Unfortunately I don't believe all that weird. In the millions of miles I have flown, my wife and I were once on a flight to Cancun where we had an already inebriated white female passenger seated as the 3rd in our row. The flight attendants continued to sell her more beer although obviously she was already well lit. When we landed she said something like, "Well done", and pulled out a cigarette and lit it. No action by the flight attendants until we were deplaning and she walked by the attendant telling us goodbye at the door. Seeing the lit cigarette in her hand finally captured the attendants attention and she was reigned in. So did this Ukrainian lady have a mental disorder? Was she not familiar with airliners? And the pictures show the window folded straight up! Obviously that gets it out of the way but I thought 737-800s had plug escapes over the wing that you pulled the locking device, took the window in and placed over the seats in the row in front or back. That's why I read the card each flight to know how the escape doors work on each different plane. And the 737 doesn't have an escape chute - the wing is so low and the crews job is to lower the flaps to make an easy slide to the ground.
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Originally Posted by NWA SLF
(Post 10879558)
I thought 737-800s had plug escapes over the wing that you pulled the locking device, took the window in and placed over the seats in the row in front or back.
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Before we get too judgemental, I was operating out of Pisa a few years ago on a holiday charter - B737-300 with an inop APU with a surface temp of 32 degrees.....as soon as the doors were closed, the CSD reported that the pax were very uncomfortable and the cabin temp indicator showed a cabin temp of 40 degrees. I asked GND if we could start an engine for air conditioning and they said no. I called the pushback co-ordinator and asked him for ground air conditioning as a priority which had been unavailable (of course) and was told to stand by, and I asked the CSD to open all main doors for ventilation, to which he reported that he couldn't because there were no steps in place.
The CSD then told me that the pax were panicking due to the high cabin temp and with no aircon and I couldn't see any options left apart from a rapid disembarkation. The FO called ATC again to try to explain that we needed the engine started for air conditioning only, but they clearly had the B team on and again told us that we had to wait for start clearance from MILAN CENTRE. At this point I was on the verge of declaring an emergency in order to get someone to recognise that we had a problem, the cabin temperature was soaring and no-one outside was remotely interested when all of a sudden Pisa Ground gave us start up clearance. To this day, I have no idea what I would have done if I hadn't been able to get the air conditioning on line. |
Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 10878964)
No, sadly. Darwin awards are for people who remove themselves from the gene pool before passing them on. It seems she has already done so.
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Once again it is worth reminding ourselves that there are no prerequisite qualifications for being a passenger on a commercial aircraft - either in terms of intelligence or being aviation savvy. And there is a reasonable chance on any flight that there is someone flying for the first time. Given that there is no obvious personal danger in stepping through a door that opens onto a surface that is designed to be walked on then I fail to see the Darwin Award potential. Okay so we all know better, but this person evidently did not. Unless someone can point to some deliberate and malicious intent to be disruptive then this may simply be a case of naive ignorance. And if so, a lifetime flying ban seems a bit much.
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Does it actually state anywhere that you can't do it and if not, what rule did she break?
Yes I know that it was an idiotic thing to do, but people should be aware that unless it clearly states that it is only acceptable in emergencies, then someone will do it! And it would have to be clearly stated they couldn't, because common sense doesn't count for anything (take the hot beverages scalding people for example). Had she injured herself, then I'm sure she would have sued and been awarded damages. Don't think I am defending her actions btw, but unfortunately you have to account for stupidity. |
Maybe just another slf who checked their common sense in along with their baggage
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I was once tasked to fly the Lord Mayor of Telford in an RAF helicopter. Despite my careful safety briefing not to touch any handles in flight or after landing and to wait for me to stop the rotor and to open the door to let him disembark, immediately on landing he pulled the jettison handle on the rear door, thanked me very much for a wonderful flight then tried to get out rotors running. I had to shout “WAIT!” and thankfully he did. After I’d shut down and helped him and his entourage out he just thanked me again shook my hand and wandered off!
Meanwhile I had to get engineering authority to refit the door and fly it back to base.....not easy without a mobile phone. |
Very few people know anything about aircraft - she saw a door, she wanted to get out - what could be more natural? Sure she's an idiot but stop and have a look around the departure lounge the next time you're in a major airport and look at the people - they are a cross-section of humanity - and that includes those of lower than average and higher than average stupidity in equal numbers..................
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Saintsman,
Your statement reminds me of something that happened to me whilst in the day job. Apologies to all for the thread drift here. I worked for a rather large oil operator and, one day, we had a meet and greet from the European head of safety. After the usual greetings he asked if I had any particular safety worries. Since I never knew when to shut up, I said I had. What are they? he asked. We're giving people too many rules and regulations and I'm worried that they're stopping thinking for themselves. I then got an earful of the company line on heath and safety, and how people needed to be told what was safe and what was not. Here's where my glittering career almost hit the buffers. OK, I said. When I go home tonight I'll take a look at my wife's cooker whilst she's burning dinner. If it doesn't have a notice saying 'Keep your head out whilst this is on', can I stick my head in there? Manager looks at me, mumbles a very strong Dutch oath and passes on...... Luckily, he couldn't see my name badge, and I suspect he did actually have a sense of humour. |
Perhaps she'd flown on Southwest Airline in the past... back when their CC (and flight deck) used to have fun with their pre-flight briefing.
I was on one flight when they got to the part; "This is a non smoking flight... If you must have a smoke, please step out onto the wing" ED: And... Sadly, there's still no technology that is stupid proof. |
And... Sadly, there's still no technology that is stupid proof. |
Barnes Wallis always said the problem with trying to make something fool-proof was that the fools turned out to be very good at getting around you
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