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wiggy 14th Jun 2020 18:10


Originally Posted by Paul Lupp (Post 10810858)
... and if you are transiting but do have to pass through immigration and then proceed to immediately check in again, say if your connecting flights don't have an agreement between airlines so you have to claim your checked luggage.... you can't, you have to quarantine in the UK for 14 days ???

Nope, you can leave the UK at any time during the quarantine period, you don't have to "serve" the full 14 days before leaving.

Asturias56 16th Jun 2020 16:35

According to eh Popular Press some of the forms handed out at Dover included as possible points of origin the "USSR" and "The German Democratic Republic"

PAXboy 16th Jun 2020 22:13

Take Back Control to the 1980s ...

wiggy 16th Jun 2020 22:15


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10812515)
According to eh Popular Press some of the forms handed out at Dover included as possible points of origin the "USSR" and "The German Democratic Republic"

Not just the popular press, and not just at Dover - the USSR and GDR options have caused some hilarity amongst some of our local "expats" today who were trying to organise a brief run to the UK over the next few days and were trying to speed things up by doing paperwork ahead of time using the on-line version of the form. It seems to be an feature/artifact of whatever database is linked to the on-line version of the no doubt "world beating" form....


PAXboy 17th Jun 2020 03:01

This is a minor matter, given that the outbound border has never been secured - so they don't know who is in the country or not. I seem to recall them talking about securing the outbound three years ago. So it is no surprise that nothing has happened. Fortunately, we are already a laughing stock in the world and cannot sink much lower.

Asturias56 17th Jun 2020 10:27

It has always astounded me Pax - nearly 40 years ago I can remember going into Australia and everyone's passport was scanned in and out -

You know if the UK was a dangerous place - like an offshore oil rig, a coal mine or a building site - they'd have been dragged through the courts decades ago for not knowing who was in and who was out.

PAXboy 17th Jun 2020 11:15

Yeah, the complain when people overstay their Visa - but they have no idea where they are! When i worked in Munich for 18 months, I had to register locally with my address and passport checked in and out each time looking at my residents permit. No problem.

But the Brits have never implemented this most basic bit of border control. Musn't drift too far off topic.


Mr Mac 17th Jun 2020 12:14


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10813312)
Yeah, the complain when people overstay their Visa - but they have no idea where they are! When i worked in Munich for 18 months, I had to register locally with my address and passport checked in and out each time looking at my residents permit. No problem.

But the Brits have never implemented this most basic bit of border control. Musn't drift too far off topic.

Paxboy
Still doing it here in Germany. Every week, but as you say it is not a big issue.
Kind regards
Mr Mac

RevMan2 23rd Jun 2020 14:24


Not just the popular press, and not just at Dover - the USSR and GDR options have caused some hilarity amongst some of our local "expats" today who were trying to organise a brief run to the UK over the next few days and were trying to speed things up by doing paperwork ahead of time using the on-line version of the form. It seems to be an feature/artifact of whatever database is linked to the on-line version of the no doubt "world beating" form....
Yugoslavia, too. (Top marks, though, for realising that Rhodesia is no longer ..er.. Rhodesia

Asturias56 23rd Jun 2020 16:21

no mention of a change in the latest relaxation .................

occasional 23rd Jun 2020 18:23

Where does one get the arrival form ? Are they handed out on the plane or are they part of check-in ?

wiggy 23rd Jun 2020 18:39


Originally Posted by occasional (Post 10818840)
Where does one get the arrival form ? Are they handed out on the plane or are they part of check-in ?

https://www.gov.uk/provide-journey-c...fore-travel-uk

occasional 24th Jun 2020 09:43

Thanks. Seems likely that there will be a lot of people unaware that the form is required.

PAXboy 2nd Jul 2020 12:25

This was posted on Twitter yesterday by Keith Burge @carryonkeith

A German national of my acquaintance has just flown into the UK, clutching details of where he intended to subject himself to a 14 day quarantine. He asked with whom he should lodge those details. Nobody knew. He walked through and out of the airport unchallenged.
This govt never wanted to implement this and any failings can be off loaded onto those who have to implement this system, usually, without much information (as in Leicester this week).

occasional 2nd Jul 2020 13:27

I thought the idea was that you filled in the form on-line and that it should already be in the appropriate database before the passenger arrives. You carry the form simply to prove that you have filled one in should anybody enquire.

Nightstop 2nd Jul 2020 18:48

My Granny doesn’t know what an online form is. There appears to be no paper alternative to the online form on the UK Govt website, what is she to do? Check into the nearest Care Home I presume.

Hartington 2nd Jul 2020 21:12

Back in the 1950s my parents employed "Au-Pair" to help look after me. They were mainly from Switzerland. I seem to remember we had to take them to our local police station when they first arrived. Beyond that I'm not sure.
These days, despite there being no obvious check on departures I believe the transport operators (not just the airlines) submit passenger lists electronically (they do it inbound too). The problem is that although that might tell us who has oevrstayed it gives us no clue as to where they are.

PAXboy 3rd Jul 2020 12:39

Amusing to see the quarantine crumble, just as PPRuNers said it would.
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Asturias56 3rd Jul 2020 17:20

It was always ridiculous and has cost the aviation and travel business millions just to save one Minister's face............

ATNotts 4th Jul 2020 17:49


Originally Posted by Nightstop (Post 10827476)
My Granny doesn’t know what an online form is. There appears to be no paper alternative to the online form on the UK Govt website, what is she to do? Check into the nearest Care Home I presume.

That is correct, I enquired with Eurotunnel yesterday and was told there is no opportunity to fill out a hard copy. Should be entertaining when a Wallace Arnold bus turns up at Dover with half the PAX not having a smart phone and not having completed the online form out.

It's somehow so much what you expect from a a poorly thought out system, put in place by a Priti dim government minister.


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