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E-passport changes will cause longer queues for Britons, leak reveals
This report in The Guardian
British citizens using biometric passports to travel this summer will be confronted by longer queues than before at UK borders, despite promises from Brexiters that leaving the EU will make travel easier for Britons. A Home Office analysis seen by the Guardian has concluded that changes announced by Philip Hammond on Wednesday, which allow citizens from seven other countries including the US to use e-passports to travel through Britain, will slow down UK citizens’ journey times. The chancellor said in his spring statement that the government would allow citizens of the US, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and South Korea to use e-passport gates. They currently have to fill in paper landing cards and present them to a border official, while passengers from the UK, EU, EEA and Switzerland are able to use biometric passports. Leaked documents show that government officials examined the effect of these changes earlier this year and concluded there would be a small but significant impact on waiting times for UK citizens. |
E-dates at Heathrow
UK Border could eliminate some manual queues by keeping the e-gates open 24 hours, my last two morning arrivals from S.E.Asia had me queuing for 20 minutes, the e-gates opened at 6am
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Would help if they also opened all the e-gates rather than the typical 50%
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Originally Posted by ZFT
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Would help if they also opened all the e-gates rather than the typical 50%
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Originally Posted by nivsy
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Quite for why, I am unsure.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
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They need staff to insist that travellers whose passport chips never work nevertheless try the e-gates at least three times before they are allowed to go to a manned desk. :O
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TOTALLY AUTOMATIC?
May I ask my more informed colleagues to clarify?
Are e-gates dependent on human confirmation of the presented passport or is it totally reliant on biometrics? I regularly exit at AMS through e-gates with no immigration officer in the wee booth at the back. If totally biometric why would the gates be closed when staff is not available? |
When we came through LGW last November there were several new e gates being installed presumably so 'foreigner's with chipped passports can use the system
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Originally Posted by farci
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I regularly exit at AMS through e-gates with no immigration officer in the wee booth at the back. If totally biometric why would the gates be closed when staff is not available?
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For those that the e-gates can't read, they balance the number of humans at the end of the row. I have no idea what ratio they work to. My e-passport was rejected by gates at LGW, LHR, LTN for seven trips before it was accepted the first time. Each time the human said the chip was working normally and could be read and passed me through. They just shrug their shoulders and get on to the next.
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the staff hate them as they think they'll be out of a job.
Didn't "someone"sabotage the early e-gates at ?Manchester??? |
The only unrealiable e-Gates are in the UK. I take a deep breath when I arrive home. Using them in other countries, they just - you know - work!
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Originally Posted by Espada III
(Post 10423946)
The only unrealiable e-Gates are in the UK. I take a deep breath when I arrive home. Using them in other countries, they just - you know - work!
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I actually disagree with that comment. frankly when I think of all the euro airports I go through except for Helsinki and AMS I don't even recall being able to use any such gates and it always manual passport check. What airports in Europe are you referring to? |
I've never been able to use an E gate in the UK, everytime i get seek assistance and then when you go to see a human they appear to be grumpy and quiz you as to where you have been, however at Mallorca airport i went straight through the e gate with no issues.
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Variable - never had a problem in Lisbon, occasional issues at AMS, common issues at LHR, serious problems In CDG
and that's using different passports over the years |
Not sure that UK attempts to "reconcile your mug with your passport photo",
I think it just takes another photo. UK readers seem to me to be much less less reliable than NZ, Australia, Singapore, Spain (all I have been to recently) |
They were working today (Thursday) in HAM. The system let me in to the first gate very quickly but, after it took the photo, I had to wait at least 40 seconds before I was released. Perhaps the system could not ID me with my reduced hair [age] from the photo and a human had to look at the stored image and the new one?
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It never ceases to amaze me - given the general air of mindless psychopathic chaos prevalent at US airports - that the CBP kiosks at LAX invariably work faultlessly. On-blocks ex AKL to Avis in under an hour last week. |
From just looking I think the Lisboa system has an officer sitting in a booth at one side with a TV that he can switch to to whichever machine is causing problems with facial ID - he then looks at the picture from the passport on his PC and compares it to the TV and (almost always) decides it's OK - he doesn't have to get out of the chair and it's very quick
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