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wiggy 30th May 2018 15:28


Originally Posted by AirUK (Post 10160755)
Dave,

Probably because they know not even one in ten pax could afford a Gucci handbag, Rolex watch, etc! The shops in T5 are useless to the average traveller.

Well the “high end” shops have been in T5 since it opened over ten years ago and appear to have attracted enough trade to keep them in business ..I even succumbed to a Paul Smith cycling jersey from the T5 shop a few years ago.

As for the “average traveller”, you’ve got several WH Smith’s and Boots outlets, at least one Dixons “duty free”, the generic (supposedly) Duty free area in the centre of T5A and the various food outlets...they all seem to do OK.

Davef68 30th May 2018 23:28


Originally Posted by AirUK (Post 10160755)
Dave,

Probably because they know not even one in ten pax could afford a Gucci handbag, Rolex watch, etc! The shops in T5 are useless to the average traveller.

I go each time with a list of things to get in the Harry Potter shop

PAXboy 31st May 2018 01:04

Was at LHR T2 Arrivals this afternoon. There is a reasonable amount of seating in front of the exit area but you cannot read the screens unless you have binoculars as the characters are so small. I decided to check online and found that the main LHR website will give you the arrivals board but only up to the landing time. The updates about 'Bags Arriving' is not available. I did not bother to subscribe to their expensive SMS service to find out if you got more information that way.

Paul Wilson 8th Jun 2018 23:05

As regulars at Stansted we actually find that we probably spend less due to the circuitous route. The good lady likes to get through to the departure area, get settled then perhaps do a bit of shopping, the thought of fighting your way back the "wrong way" to get to an earlier so, just means that shopping is just done in the few shops visible from our selected perch (normally the fish and champagne place). I too might week, in other circumstances, visit the whisky place or another ship, but I can't remember what we passed on the way in. So don't bother.
i would rather they just got me in quick, gave me somewhere to sit, and let me get bored. Then I might shop

krismiler 9th Jun 2018 00:49

Not just departures, many airports also funnel you through duty free on arrival as well. It may be a better buying there as people aren’t inclined to linger and won’t stop unless the prices are attractive.

Piltdown Man 9th Jun 2018 05:48

I’m very old fashioned. I go to the toilet when I want to pee, I go to a barber when I want a haircut and my doctor when there is something wrong with me. Amazingly when I wish to travel I go to bus stop, railway station or airport. I do not go these places to bloody well shop. But when I next go to my butcher I’ll ask if he has any any flights to Malaga, just in case I’m out if touch with the modern way of doing things.

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RedhillPhil 9th Jun 2018 10:25

Not just shops. The last two times that I've been through Gatwick I've had my one working ear assaulted by relentless thumping "pop" music. St. Pancras railway station is a shopping mall but at least it's a straight path to the trains,

PAXboy 9th Jun 2018 13:19

I wonder how much the Shopping Arcades have developed to off set the price controls put in place when the airports were privatised? As you may recall, there was a strong limit on how much the landing fees could go up each year. It was no surprise when LHR changed their landign charges policy from 'seating per aircraft' to 'aircraft' so as to increase their income and squeeze out the regionals. (Still an ongoing problem 25+ years later!) Then they started upping the prices of the shop lets and redesigning to incorporate more shops and everyone else followed. The Conservatives wanted to privatise but knew that rising landing fees would be blamed on them. So they put controls in price which were then side stepped. No one could have predicted that ...

Parking was then incorporated as another high income stream. They learnt this one from British Rail who had already hiked parking prices to the point where their car parks started to empty and surrounding streets started to fill up with commuters parking in surburban side streets. Consequently to that the local Councils had to introduce parking restrictions so that locals could park in front of their own houses - had this happen to us.

I might be throwing hand grenades too freely, I sit to be corrected.

Heathrow Harry 9th Jun 2018 15:45

land-side Councils also now charge to drop-off, pick-up etc - Edinburgh is one of he worst for this - Govt cuts payments to local authorities to cut income tax so they go hunting elsewhere for revenue - then private airports see a new source of cash and do the same

I gave up on duty free years ago as you can almost always buy cheaper land-side - maybe except booze into Norway etc

As for buying a watch or clothes there...................:yuk:

Mr Mac 10th Jun 2018 07:41

Heathrow Harry
Have to agree with you. I go straight from car to lounge, however if with Mrs Mac there does seem to be a diversion to some outlet (Fat Face springs to mind recently !) . Now just give up let her wonder about while I go to lounge. As for Duty Free I will only bring in on inbound flight and only things which were difficult to obtain in UK or expensive to do so - Bombay East and Tanqueray Ten (when it was only available in US spring to mind), and of course Cuban cigars though 12 of the latter will usually see me through a year !

Kind regards
Mr Mac

sixchannel 10th Jun 2018 14:45


Originally Posted by krismiler (Post 10168639)
Not just departures, many airports also funnel you through duty free on arrival as well. It may be a better buying there as people aren’t inclined to linger and won’t stop unless the prices are attractive.

Quite so. BHX my local case in point. Disorienting outbound circuitous route to what seating there is. And, blow me, after a nice 5hr 29" pitch package holiday flight home arriving when most shops are shut ,there it is again - just in case I had forgotte to by that overpriced watch or perfume.
Due to probs with BHX re sensible parking and flight times to my preferred destination, I shall be using EMA later this year. Please, please, let it be better!!!

Saintsman 10th Jun 2018 17:01

Just a thought on buying upon arrival.

Outbound they demand to see your boarding card. What is the process for buying when you land inbound?

sixchannel 10th Jun 2018 18:12

Probably.
 
Probably. But like i said, having arrived back at BHX in early hours when all normal shops are shut and after a 5hr 29" pitch package flight, who wants to buy that Rolex or perfume? Not me - im usually spent up anyway.

WilliumMate 10th Jun 2018 18:29


Originally Posted by Saintsman (Post 10169854)
Just a thought on buying upon arrival.

Outbound they demand to see your boarding card. What is the process for buying when you land inbound?

Last time I bought inbound was at Luton. Daughter wanted some perfume and I baulked at the 90 euros demanded in Malaga, forty quid at Luton for the same bottle and no boarding card required.

NRU74 10th Jun 2018 18:48

Is it a ‘female’ thing ?
Do any blokes buy anything from these retail outlets ?
All I want to do ( and my flights are all short haul Europe) is to get thru’ security/passports whatever, get a beer and read the paper on the ipad.
It never crosses my mind to actually buy anything.

sixchannel 10th Jun 2018 19:01

Me neither. Despite the experience of the gent from Luton, ive never found a DF price that i couldnt beat either in Resort or in inbound airport DFs - FUE, LPA, AGP, ALI.
I also prefer to try and find a seat in Departures (not always easy at BHX, grab a soft drink and sit patiently whilst my planes are delayed.

El Bunto 10th Jun 2018 19:54

It was a couple of years ago and I was very tired but I remember the departures of Bristol airport being one huge shopping precinct complete with endless loud animated perfume ads on big screens. I can't see how that would encourage anyone to buy there, unless the offered to shut-off the volume with a purchase.

Also, the shops were closed as it was nearly midnight. Can't they turn-off the ads when the shutters go down?

I've never been so glad to board an Easyjet flight, even two hours delayed. I watched it coming in on FR24 on my phone and cheered when it came into view.

vctenderness 11th Jun 2018 08:49

We always used to say “remember it’s duty free but not profit free”.

Even airports like Dubai who built a reputation on cheap booze and fags gave in years ago and ratcheted up the prices until, for most nationalities, it’s not worth the bother of carrying it for the miniscual savings.




PAXboy 11th Jun 2018 11:53

I used to buy on board - especially when pre-ordering started as it was very convenient. Then the airlines racked up prices too. If going on holiday, I usually buy locally on arrival.

Delight 11th Jun 2018 12:05

I find the lighting in the "duty free" area of EDI gives me an instant headache. On my last visit I had to run though (due to BA "bag drop" being understaffed) and the thought did cross my mind that at least Ikea have short cuts for people in a hurry.


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