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Startledgrapefruit 14th Aug 2017 20:30

Ryanair call for 2 drink limit at airports
 
Ryanair calls for two-drink limit at airports - BBC News


Yeah
Just wait and buy it all from us when you board................and a scratch card

qwertyuiop 14th Aug 2017 20:47

So cynical, but accurate.

Station_Calling 14th Aug 2017 20:49

Ryanair...
 
...have done f**k all about the problems of alcohol and flying - in fact they are one of the worst culprits. Now there is a national TV programme and a bit of media frenzy, they publish this.

Cynical, headline grabbing ares-holes who have done nothing previously to try and stop this cancer of flying, but want to ride on the efforts of others.

Greek God 14th Aug 2017 21:18

Ok
Have just watched the Panorama on Alcohol vs flying. So my question is why was is only Jet2 who was prepared to stand up and make an official appearance? Unsurprisingly there was no comment from any airport apart from some woman who was the head of some joint airport commitee. She glibly announcd that it was not the sale of booze that was the problem but more the irresponsible consumption?
Every pillock passing the buck and NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROBLEM!!! Apart from Jet2. I know who is rapidly becoming my airline of choice!
My airline was aproached and saw fit to issue a notice to crew specifically instructing personnel not to allow filming or to comment despite a large increase in distruptive incidents over that last 12-18months.
Grrr rant over:\

PAXboy 14th Aug 2017 21:46

BBC Panorama investigation suggested arrests of drunken passengers have risen by 50%
 
All the points in this article will be familiar to us in this forum.

Ryanair calls for two-drink limit at airports - BBC News

There are various airlines calling for changes at the airports.

Ryanair's Kenny Jacobs said: "This is an issue which the airports must now address."We are calling for significant changes to prohibit the sale of alcohol at airports, particularly with early morning flights and when flights are delayed."
So, all they have to do is:
  1. Change British social culture that has built up over the last 30 years.
  2. Change the way airport owners charge for their services, in order to reduce costs on airport concessions, in order to reduce how much money they have to make to pay the airports ...
    which means:
  3. Changing govt policy that has built up over the last 30 years.
:rolleyes:

BEagle 14th Aug 2017 22:25

Ryanair has had no qualms about diverting and throwing unruly passengers off the flight in the past - and good for them!

Although the LoCos have made it much easier for people to fly, they probably didn't realise quite what truly vile and unruly scum would be taking advantage of their low prices. But it is clearly the money-grabbing airport operators with their ridiculous Duty Free policies and open-all-hours bars who have exacerbated the situation.

This is made worse by the latest requirements to arrive at the airport some hours before flying. What else will the low life do after check-in apart from drinking themselves stupid?

Regrettably it will probably be the polite, well-behaved passengers who will suffer thanks to the antics of the drunken yobs (of both sexes) on their way to stag/hen party weekends or holiday destinations...

Good to see Jet2 taking action though - but all other airlines should follow their lead.

Hotel Tango 15th Aug 2017 00:05

:ok: Yep, spot on there Beagle

PAXboy 15th Aug 2017 01:57

It's all about money. Currently, the govt has overstretched itself (to breaking point) because of the EU fandango - and nothing will change about this so this is just going to get worse.

DaveReidUK 15th Aug 2017 07:33

Ryanair call for 2 drink limit at airports
 
Call me a cynic - it's something Ryanair knows isn't going to happen, but nevertheless allows it to take the moral high ground without acknowledging that they are part of the problem.

A typical RYR press release, in other words ...

englishkev 15th Aug 2017 08:02

Dave
Just thinking the same thing myself. The press release has O'Leary and free advertising written all over it.

KelvinD 15th Aug 2017 08:30

I watched only a couple of brief snatches but one thing I picked up on was a lady describing how a crowd was getting lubricated before a flight. The carrier announced ahead of departure that the flight would be dry, at which point a "pop-up" bar appeared adjacent to the gate. The "dry" flight departed and bar service was commenced on this "dry" flight! And I am sure the airline concerned was Ryanair.

Laarbruch72 15th Aug 2017 10:49


Good to see Jet2 taking action though - but all other airlines should follow their lead.
If you were involved in the work that goes on to try and address this issue, you'd know that other airlines are just as heavily involved and proactive, they just don't necessarily choose to be as publicly vocal - and I do give Jet2 credit for being as high profile as they are by the way; It's a subject close to the heart of Jet2's MD and this is the way he wants to show his colours, but there's masses of work going on across UK aviation, coordinated through Airlines UK (formerly BATA), and I can assure you that pretty much all of the UK airlines are working together. Please don't confuse lack of press inches covering a carrier with inaction on their part.

Hotel Tango 15th Aug 2017 19:21


Ryanair call for 2 drink limit at airports
Sure they do. Means more $$$$$ of on board sales on their flights!!! :rolleyes:

S.o.S. 15th Aug 2017 19:21

Thank you Laarbruch72, that is very encouraging.

Harry Wayfarers 15th Aug 2017 20:12


I can assure you that pretty much all of the UK airlines are working together. Please don't confuse lack of press inches covering a carrier with inaction on their part.
Alas RYR aren't a UK airline ... Thankfully :)

ExXB 15th Aug 2017 20:32

If they really wanted to succeed, why don't they offer 2 free drinks inflight to sober adults? Rather than charge them 4.50 for half a pint. If they added 10 to the fare they would be well ahead.

Harry Wayfarers 15th Aug 2017 20:38

If they added GBP10 to the fare they wouldn't transport so many idiots in the first place!

Laarbruch72 15th Aug 2017 23:23


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 9862924)
If they added GBP10 to the fare they wouldn't transport so many idiots in the first place!

Really? You think another tenner on the fare discourages anyone?

At my last airline the most troublesome route was UK to Montego Bay (so a high fare to begin with), often involving "premium" passengers (so even more expensive), this was despite the airline also offering a vast number of cheap Balearic routes and similar as the main fayre.

It's not a simplistic situation of "poor and drunk passengers behave worse than any other "better off" demographic". It's way more complicated than that, with all sorts of cultural, societal and operational issues at play.

Metro man 15th Aug 2017 23:47

Aeroflot stopped selling alcoholic drinks in economy class due to passenger behaviour. They started with the problem routes such as Havana and Bangkok and eventually applied it to the whole network. The consumption of duty free is also prohibited.

If Ryanair was serious, they would do the same.

Harry Wayfarers 16th Aug 2017 05:58


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72 (Post 9863067)
Really? You think another tenner on the fare discourages anyone?

At my last airline the most troublesome route was UK to Montego Bay (so a high fare to begin with), often involving "premium" passengers (so even more expensive), this was despite the airline also offering a vast number of cheap Balearic routes and similar as the main fayre.

It's not a simplistic situation of "poor and drunk passengers behave worse than any other "better off" demographic". It's way more complicated than that, with all sorts of cultural, societal and operational issues at play.

Yes, it would discourage a percentage, a family of four on a round trip, that's GBP80.00, many of these people didn't fly until these silly fares came in ... and I speak having worked for, and flew many a time with, Europe's first low-cost airline ... the airline that invented low-cost airlines1


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