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GoldwingSpain 9th Aug 2016 09:58

Passenger goes walkabout on tarmac at Madrid airport
 
Seen this in couple of papers.

Ryanair passenger runs across Madrid runway to catch flight | Daily Mail Online

OldLurker 9th Aug 2016 11:58

To be fair to the DM (reluctantly) the story doesn't say "passenger runs across runway" – the word "runway" is only in the web page title.

I wonder what was going through the pasenger's mind, such as it is. Did he think that if he caught up with the aircraft, they'd stop and let him on? Really? Though the story says it was a 737, and some 737s do have internal steps that deploy from under the front left door, so if this aircraft had one, they could have let him on, but I'm sure they wouldn't!

By the way, do any larger Boeings or Airbuses carry their own steps?

S76Heavy 9th Aug 2016 12:43

Something to do with low cost travel, I think. Apparently, to some passengers flagging down an aircraft is quite similar to flagging down a bus...

er340790 9th Aug 2016 14:07

10/10 for Determination. :D

Minus Several Million for Intelligence. :ugh:

SMT Member 9th Aug 2016 14:57

Air Leary's aerial cashcows are fitted with integrated fwd airstairs. Or, at least, some are/were. Don't think there's much chance of being let onboard, at least not without paying the very very late boarding fee!

Pax these days continue to display an ever more alarmingly poor command of mental faculties.

tdracer 9th Aug 2016 15:00


By the way, do any larger Boeings or Airbuses carry their own steps?
The only ones I'm aware of are the two Air Force One 747s - they have 'airstairs' leading to the forward cargo area (which isn't configured for cargo on AF1) - then a staircase to the main deck. It's actually pretty slick looking in operation.
There may be some similar set-ups for VIP aircraft but I've never seen one (although there is at least one VIP 747 that is equipped with a ground loading elevator).

crablab 9th Aug 2016 15:49


Originally Posted by SMT Member (Post 9468216)
Pax these days continue to display an ever more alarmingly poor command of mental faculties.

Well, it is a Ryanair pax ;)

Big M 9th Aug 2016 16:20

Similar to tdracer's mention of Air Force One, the four E4B (747) Airborne Command Aircraft of The USAF have similar steps fitted.
Of course these are military "money no object" aircraft, when it comes to commercial passenger aircraft the cost via fuel burn of carrying the weight of air stairs around everyday can't be justified. In addition there is the cost of maintenance, repair, inspection, spare parts etc. A cheap set of aluminium push in stairs at each destination will win every time.

short bus 9th Aug 2016 16:31

http://youtu.be/tsi6we74hxc

TBSC 9th Aug 2016 16:57


Originally Posted by OldLurker (Post 9468006)
By the way, do any larger Boeings or Airbuses carry their own steps?

+ Il-86/96, Mad Dogs, Fokker 70, Yak-40/42.

Denti 9th Aug 2016 18:01

Airstais are a normal customer option on all 737s. We used to have them installed on our classics and a few NGs before we deactivated them and removed them. Were quite useful when groundhandling was slow again.

ATC Watcher 9th Aug 2016 18:14

Back airstairs used to be standard feature on previous generations jets , B727, DC9, Caravelle, BA111 etc. saved lot of time, at the time ... now waiting for stairs or jetways is part of the game ...

flight_mode 9th Aug 2016 18:17

The article has been updated to say they stopped and let him board. Brilliant!

Unfortunately, when he landed he was met by the police and reported for airport security infringements.

EEngr 9th Aug 2016 18:34


The man in question is now likely to face a very high fine.
He had to fly RyanAir. Isn't that punishment enough?;)

atakacs 9th Aug 2016 18:46


Originally Posted by flight_mode (Post 9468425)
The article has been updated to say they stopped and let him board. Brilliant!

seriously?

sitigeltfel 9th Aug 2016 20:42

Some news feeds say the aircraft he was chasing wasn't his and the one he should have been on was still at the gate.
After checking him over, security allowed him to board.

Crazier things have happened! :ugh:

Julio747 9th Aug 2016 21:24

Well...
 
If they will change gates at the last minute...

RevMan2 10th Aug 2016 09:43

If I understand this correctly, the Ryanair captain stoppedand allowed a passenger who had obviously evaded at least one security checkpoint onto his aircraft....?

DaveReidUK 10th Aug 2016 10:29


Originally Posted by RevMan2 (Post 9469009)
If I understand this correctly, the Ryanair captain stopped and allowed a passenger who had obviously evaded at least one security checkpoint onto his aircraft....?

No, you don't understand it correctly.

The badly-written DM article ("passenger runs across Madrid Runway" - really??) has now removed the reference to the aircraft stopping and letting the passenger board. As noted previously, he was in fact chasing the wrong aircraft and after being intercepted he was allowed to board the correct flight, presumably in the conventional manner.

PAXboy 10th Aug 2016 11:44

First MAD failure was that he could get down the jetway that had no aircraft attached.

Phoenix1969 10th Aug 2016 13:03

Wasn't he worried about getting sucked into an engine?!

Daverb 10th Aug 2016 15:07

The BBC website is saying he 'caught his flight'.

I was thinking how on earth did he get on if they had already pushed back but that makes more sense if he was aprehended and then allowed on a different flight. (The right one).

Why on earth did they let him go after doing that though.

Crazy.

RevMan2 10th Aug 2016 17:38


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9469060)
No, you don't understand it correctly.

The badly-written DM article ("passenger runs across Madrid Runway" - really??) has now removed the reference to the aircraft stopping and letting the passenger board. As noted previously, he was in fact chasing the wrong aircraft and after being intercepted he was allowed to board the correct flight, presumably in the conventional manner.

Actually, I did understand the original article correctly and commented accordingly.
The corrected content doesn't answer the question as to why the passenger wasn't having a long chat with PC Pablo.........

PAXboy 10th Aug 2016 19:12


Wasn't he worried about getting sucked into an engine?!
I wonder what his blood alcohol levels were as he was not thinking anything much.

Local Variation 10th Aug 2016 19:22

Odd that the person airside chose to film the guy rather than stop him.

PAXboy 10th Aug 2016 21:56

Second MAD failure was that when he jumped down and spoke to a driver of a luggage tug - the driver did not stop him going any further.

Third MAD failure as Local Variation states is that another airside worker did not stop him.

One is tempted to make stereotypical comments about Spanish workers ...

Dont Hang Up 11th Aug 2016 09:44

It is worth remembering that not everyone is a seasoned air traveler and there is no user manual that the novice traveler is required to read in advance of arriving for their flight.

Lacking knowledge of the dangers of airside operations, or the general security paranoia of all airports, one only needs to add the ingredient of panic at seeing one's supposed aircraft departing to understand how this gentleman may have behaved the way he did.

The responsibility is entirely with the airport to ensure that kind of behaviour is prevented. If there is no aircraft at one end of an air bridge then there should be a locked door at the other end.

Daverb 11th Aug 2016 11:25

True. Good points Dont Hang Up.

PAXboy 11th Aug 2016 11:30

100% the fault of staff at MAD.

Evanelpus 11th Aug 2016 13:24


100% the fault of staff at MAD.
The only authority that should be taking any kinda stick over this is the airport operator. This isn't some mickey mouse backwater airport we are talking about here.

RAT 5 12th Aug 2016 11:04

LoCo's advertise themselves (SWA) as a flying bus. London passengers demanded a return of the hop on hop off double decker route master. Connect the dots and hey presto.

onetrack 12th Aug 2016 14:37

It's quite possible the pax in question originates from a 3rd world country, where airside security is lax in the extreme, and flagging down your flight as it's taxiing, is de rigeur?? :rolleyes:


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