Oh I don't know.. I did a 19h30 flight with Singapore Airlines on their all-business A340-500 from Newark to Singapore, and it was a fine experience..
You just have to take off your watch, eat when you're hungry, sleep when your body wants to, and have plenty of reading material. Of course, doing it in an economy seat would have sucked a bit... |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 9605716)
I can't think of anything worse than being stuck in an aircraft for probably close to 18 hours when boarding and disembarkation is included.
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Qantas will start the nonstop PER-LHR route in March 2017 The 14,498 kilometre service will be the first regular passenger service to directly link Australia with Europe when it begins in March 2018. |
"It's great news for Western Australia because it will bring jobs and tourism" says Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.
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Oh god I couldn't think of anything worse... just glad I am retired.
Probably not to bad if you are in F or J, horrendous down the back. Awful for the crew. I for one much prefer to stop off for a day on the way going down under. In my flying days I had a couple of deaths on Aussie routes, lots of older folk visiting relatives, sitting cramped for hour after hour. Can't imagine what a flight that long would be like |
Regardless of the comfort for those in economy, will the numbers really stack up and will it actually be profitable ? The fuel needed to carry the fuel such a long way does not come cheap and Australia's white collar business capital is not Perth. I just can't see any particular merit of Perth vetsus changing planes in any of the existing hubs in the middle and far east, so Qantas won't be able to achieve much of a fare premium via Perth on the London-Sydney route
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Well, I wonder where the MEB3 will now announce so that they can have the world's longest route.
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I suppose Emirates or Etihad (but not Qatar) could launch Santiago de Chile or Lima or Guayaquil if they want to reclaim their title in the "mine's bigger than yours" competition
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I dont think there will be an F offering...
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The direct will probably save you a couple of hours over a stopper
That will be attractive to some passengers and I'd guess overall you'll burn less fuel than adding an extra landing & t/o so it's good for the airline As ever it all depends on pricing - there are probably enough passengers flying London-Perth and v/v each day to fill a 787 But you won't get any connecting traffic from S & E Australia as it's 4-6 hours flight time to Perth plus a connection - much faster via DXB or SIN |
Ultra long range flights are the future and there will be more and more as suitable aircraft are available. But a Perth to London routing is a joke, considering the location ( Perth ). Sydney - London would be the right choice.
Regarding Perth, which is located in the middle ( at the edge ) of nowhere, I doubt there is any local demand. |
Routing between UK and eastern Oz one has to stop somewhere and an hour or few in such places as BKK and SIN are wasted whereas during a stop/connection in PER at least one can clear Oz customs & immigration thus arriving at their final destination as a domestic passenger able to clear their ultimate destination airport significantly quicker.
When I travelled to/from Oz on business many years ago it was 1 hour in BKK, then 2 hours in SYD before onwards to MEL, as we reached the hotel bar some of our aircrew workmates were trying to tempt me with a beer but I was too zombie-fied even for a beer. By comparison I've done 14 hours, in economy, MNL to AMS, I was a smoker at the time but it was OK and once one has been airborne for that length of time another 3 hours ain't all that. So would I prefer LHR/BKK/SYD/MEL (2 transit stops) or would I prefer LHR/PER/MEL (1 transit stop)? ... I'll take the latter option thanks! |
The longest duration scheduled flight was by Quantas, the double sunrise Perth (I believe) to Ceylon by Catalina: 33hrs non stop.
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Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers
(Post 9606513)
So would I prefer LHR/BKK/SYD/MEL (2 transit stops) or would I prefer LHR/PER/MEL (1 transit stop)? ... I'll take the latter option thanks!
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That will be attractive to some passengers and I'd guess overall you'll burn less fuel than adding an extra landing & t/o so it's good for the airline |
That will be attractive to some passengers and I'd guess overall you'll burn less fuel than adding an extra landing & t/o so it's good for the airline Once we acquired DC10-30's services operated direct but with the extra tankering of fuel it would have been cheaper to continue tech stopping in BGR ... But punters preferred direct services. |
another 3 hours ain't all that bad |
another 3 hours ain't all that bad Part of Alan Joyce's plans for his historic game changing route is administering injections of local anesthetic into the buttocks of Economy PAX at the departure gate. I flew 14 hours non stop as a smoker, had that been a 17 hour leg and had the operator offered me a choice to stop after 14 hours, take a one hour break before continuing for the last three hours I'd have responded "Let's carry on, let's get it over and done with" and I'm pretty damn sure that much of the travelling public would have responded likewise. |
A 787 isn't that many seats to fill, and the lure of a direct flight will one suspects lure some folks away from a stop in the UAE.
Last time I went this way was on a BA 744, via SIN, where half the pax got off (and very few got on), which can't have been very economical either (although I accept it probably wouldn't be on a 74' now). It's a long slog for sure, but once you get to 13-14hrs, a few more is neither here nor there IMHO. |
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 9606990)
A 787 isn't that many seats to fill, and the lure of a direct flight will one suspects lure some folks away from a stop in the UAE.
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 9606990)
It's a long slog for sure, but once you get to 13-14hrs, a few more is neither here nor there IMHO.
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