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liteswap 17th Jan 2014 16:17

BA 777 nosecone breaks at LHR
 
Friend of mine due off LHR at 1455 on BAW9 finds himself and wife still sitting in the lounge at 1715 while the 777 is towed away and a new plane ordered. New departure time is 2000 or later. Apparently the nosecone is broken... How unusual is that?

dazdaz1 17th Jan 2014 17:15

" while the 777 is towed away and a new plane ordered" Bloody hell Boeing must be 'on the ball'

PAXboy 17th Jan 2014 18:47

Talk about the 'throw-away society' :hmm:

liteswap I'd say: Very unusual. As you may know, the nose cone is not made of metal, as it houses the radar. It is possible that it received a light blow from a bird that caused a crack to appear and then it would need to be replaced. Not a serious problem but more than enough to ground the machine.

champair79 17th Jan 2014 20:15

The 'old plane' is having its radome replaced and is due to operate the BA245 to EZE tonight (G-YMMD).


Tonight's BA9 is now being operated by G-YMMB which had just arrived from BKK and was turned around as quickly as possible. This aircraft was originally meant to operate the BA245 so in essence it is a 1-4-1 swap. It does mean that in all probability, tomorrow's BA245 will also be delayed as the BKK flight tonight was late leaving LHR.


There isn't much slack in the 3-class 777 fleet at the moment. LGW have 2 aircraft based there (1 was AOG yesterday) and G-YMMF is in maintenance at Cardiff. There aren't many opportunities for tail swaps if there is a technical problem.


Hope they enjoy the flight nonetheless!


Champ

champair79 18th Jan 2014 12:31

To remove the rotational delay to the BA245 caused by the delay to yesterday's BKK flight, tonight's BA245 is scheduled to be operated by a 777-300ER (G-STBG at the moment). A nice little upgrade!


Champ

Mechta 18th Jan 2014 13:09

So to get the damaged aircraft flying again, are BA most likely to have:
  1. Had a radome in stock?
  2. Cannabalised one from the aircraft undergoing maintenance in Wales?
  3. Bought one from Boeing or the radome manufacturer?
  4. Fixed the damaged one?
  5. Used one from G-YMMM?

Blink182 18th Jan 2014 15:43

Answer is most probably 1
Bear in mind that these are fairly large and fragile items and getting it to where you can change it ( Hangar with available crane ) can cause problems in the supply chain, so a radome change would probably take something like 8 hours to acomplish.................. a lot more than that if there are additional problems such as towing issues .

spannersatcx 18th Jan 2014 15:56

Blimey we change them on the ramp, 2 hours at the most! Hangar/crane what are they!
They're not that fragile, but a bird at 200mph will damage it!

Blink182 18th Jan 2014 16:01

All well and good so long as you can get the Radome in the box onto the Ramp..... and the windspeed is sufficiently low !

Airbus / 737 is small enough to manhandle but 777 is a large item

champair79 18th Jan 2014 16:55

Mixture of 1/2 actually:


-Aircraft was towed back to Engineering
-Radome removed from G-YMMO which is in maintenance for a different issue
-Fitted to G-YMMD and towed back out to operate last night's BA245
-Radome then robbed from G-YMMI to fit on G-YMMO
-New radome to be fitted to G-YMMI


Champ

TURIN 18th Jan 2014 16:59

Ah the good old robbery roundabout. This could run and run. :) O/T all round. :D

liteswap 20th Jan 2014 09:10

Thanks for the 'behind the scenes' info.

Wirbelsturm 20th Jan 2014 10:46

The staff at EZE will be happy!


They've been begging for a 777-300 for years! Pity they won't be able to sell the first class seats though, perhaps 14 lucky club pax will get a more comfy flight.


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