But nobody is under any illusion here are they.

SOP's are in force.

BA wants to reduce Cabin Crew terms and conditions

BA prepares a pool of qualified and partially qualified people who are willing to work for less.

BA forces current cabin Crew into crippling strike, thus alienating travelling public at a very sensitive time.

Public outcry at the insensitivity of Cabin Crew.

BA sacks the lot, employs the new lot waiting in the wings, hey presto, job done, trebles all around.

How wide of the mark am I pray tell :ugh:

the vote to strike was known many weeks ago.

with some thought the outcome was known also.

why has anyone booked with BA over the holidays???????????

i flew with another airline and got a great price and great service.

wakey wakey

@aileron

some ppl booked month ago. if not most...

I should like to express my sympathy to my friends who work for BA, whose jobs are being placed in jeopardy by these morons, and to my friends and family who have been misguided and unfortunate enough to have booked flights with BA during the period of the strikes.

If this is the end of BA as we know it, good riddance, and may it come back as we knew it in better days.

And the good news is they will not lose your luggage over Christmas:ok:

Woods / Trees
 

I've never seen such short-sightedness - how to strike yourself out of a job in 12 short days . . . . :rolleyes:

Well at least they've knocked the bugs out of T5 over the past year so there's a nice new building waiting for a proper airline to move in to.

flugangst,

yes a good point and if i were one of those id be angry also

for the rest......remember there is a choice

as a non London, UK resident i grew tired of BA and its arrogance many moons ago. i think rebranding as London Airways is way overdue

for those of you caught up in this fiasco. vote with your feet next time......for now pick up the phone/pen and make your feelings known

If these people think that they will get public sympathy...think again!

They could go BUST just like that! Anyone who thinks it won't happen need to take a long hard look at Sabena and Swissair...

These Airlines went bust and were then re-opened with different contracts...with a much lower cost basis.

Mr Len McWhatever stop being so patronising and pathetic, if you were that intelligent you would be sitting on the other side of the desk/fence!

I don't believe it....
 

No, I am mad at Unite who still live in the '70's and this weak government who don't have the balls to stand up to them. BA cabin crew are among the best paid in the industry and should wake up to the reality of BA's financial situation. Goose and golden egg springs to mind.

My son and his girlfriend are booked on BA ABD to LHR on 22 Dec. and return on 30 Dec.; thanks a bunch for the Christmas present you morons.

Doesn't it all sound horribly reminiscent of Michael Edwards and British Leyland?????

"Make it pay! Or close it down!"

Except this time, it's the City rather than Mags calling the shots. And compared to a pack of baying Investment Bankers, Mags was a poodle.

Remember BL? Staggered on a decade or so longer, first under Japanese then German ownership then flogged off to a gang of asset strippers before finally being closed down for good and any assets dumped at cents on the dollar to China.

And they say history repeats itself. :eek:

Can't help but feeling they have played into WW's hands...

The 12 Days of Christmas?
 

Here's how it will be....

How the Service will de-generate over those 12 Days of Yuletide strikes
(Sung to the well known tune)


On the first day of Christmas my crew love gave to me
a part ride with some lukewarm Chablis

On the second day of Christmas my crew love gave to me
Two fertile shoves (to the back of the cabin)
and a part ride to New York Cit-ee (return flight cancelled)

On the third day of Christmas my crew love gave to me
Three French mens (lost bags, instead of my own)
Etc etc

On the twelfth day of Christmas my crew love gave to me
Twelve plumbers bumming (a free ride home on another airline)
eleven pipers wiping (the tears of despair from their eyes)
ten awards a' weeping (couldn’t get an upgrade)
nine ladies re-financing (their trip to Turkey)
eight downgrades a' milking (as much sympathy as possible)
seven prawns a' slimming (no more onboard meals)
six police a' spraying (water cannon at the picket lines)
five apron strings (to go serve myself in the galley)
four appalling words (unrepeatable)
three French mens (lost bags instead of my own)
two fertile shoves (to prevent me moving forward to Club World)
and my bus fare home to Dundee

So during the twelve days of Christmas there will be four calling birds,
three French hens, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree........plus Flybe, Ryan Air and the Orange birds. There'll be no need for pilots with gold rings because at this rate there won't be a BA!
Have these stupid people not heard of the recession, of people without jobs, others on reduced hours, companies going bust left right and centre? Did they not notice all the industries and companies which the unions destroyed. Doubtless the union bosses who inspired the strike will continue to enjoy their big fat salaries and the seasonal festivities!
Of course they had no intention of inflicting inconvenience on the general public......what a load of codswallop. Sadly they lack the intelligence to realise their own stupidity!
How very sad for a once great airline. RIP along with Swissair, Pan Am, TWA, Sabena etc etc.
H49

The vote is in favour of strike action, the dates when it could happen are now known, does not mean it will go ahead.

May be there is a chance both sides will sit down and sort out a deal that addresses the issues at hand and negotiates a way forward. Well it could happen.

Don t forget that now we have an incredibly strong union and probably no airline = result!:ouch:

Why
 

El Grifo, You're so right! There are a lot of issues that hit the nerve of CC.

What I don't understand is why the union is not giving straight answers to the questions on that press conference. To get more understanding of the public they could have at least layed out the exact issues that Unite have.
In example the fact that the middle management of BA is made up with some ex-Tesco and ex-Sainsburys floor managers who think they can run In-flight management and consequently impose impossible measures to cut cost. In fact they haven't got a clue what goes on once the doors close and the aircraft pushes back and all they think of is reducing service to their paying passengers. Those same managers who actually at the company's expense travel to the hotels all around the world where BA crew stay to try to intimidate them to accept their terms without consulting them. Ground managers of cabin crew who haven't got a clue what they are talking about and consequently are useless if you have a problem related to in-flight services....

Why does nobody speak up and tell the paying passengers what the real issues are?

UAV689But they are not holding the nation to ransom. They are attempting to hold their management to ransom. The rest of the nation will just shrug their shoulders and book elsewhere.

The UK no longer has sympathy for this kind of action unless it's people like the nurses, and CC have NEVER been considered in the same over-worked, underprivileged breath as nurses! It's no good the CC waking up now to smell the coffee - it's already gone cold.

El Grifo is correct that the mgmt would hope to lay them all off but - if the CC had negotiated a reduction in pay, Ts&Cs, then they might still have a job.

I used to say that BA would not be under it's present ownership within 10 years. I just reduced that to under 5 - irrespective of whether the strike goes ahead.

I suspect BA will do that very shortly, but don't expect Unite to tell the fare paying passengers that the dispute is caused by their power struggle with BA and the threat to their day to day control of the operation.

Driftdown

Looking at those 3 Unite clowns at the press conference, i hardly think they have the intelligence to negotiate their way out of a paper bag.