Where's the fun in that ? ;)

Here's the fun...

The well meaning people at ASH ( Action on Smoking and Health ) have reported the fire as being caused by a cigarette on thier website.

ASH Daily News for 06 November 2008

The smoking lobby have accused them of bending the facts to suit themselves ( principally about the dangers of passive smoking ).

I am not supporting smoking here but when lobby groups urge governments to change legislation on the basis of facts - then are so convinced they are right that they misrepresent those very facts so boldly - we should all be very worried...

Do Saudia Allow Smoking?
 

I watched a documentary about Saudi Arabia on the BBC on 8/11. One segment was filmed on an internal flight on which a number of passengers were shown smoking. This might have had something to do with them being part of the entourage of a member of the royal family as I haven't found any reference to smoking on the Saudi Arabian Airlines website.

Quote:

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part of the entourage of a member of the royal family

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Goddit in one.

GooGoo 'wasta'.

Non-smokers hate smokers... Smokers refuse to socialize with people in any non-smoking area. It is almost like racism, or political foes...
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I wish the efforts against drugs use and drug traffic (includes marijuana) would be equal to the "anti tobacco smoking" efforts. The day there is no more drug traffic and drug use, I will stop smoking my pipe and my cigarettes.
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Tobacco kills - true - I think drug kills many as well, plus the drug war victims.
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Happy contrails

rich rules, O K
 

just like here then. if youre rich you dictate your own rules.

I don't know but I could imagine certain 'stan type internal airlines permit or at least don't prevent smoking. Africa too possibly but again I don't know. AFAIK, no 'civilised' country allows smoking in the air for public or charter flights, or at least public.

Private of course, its all fine, but if you want to lean out of a cessna's window to do it... Or pay for your own G5..

I don't think BA's safety video helps here ( or most other airlines ) .

It shows a pax sitting down and lighting up followed by a smiling FA who points to the no smoking sign. The smiling pax nods and puts out his cigarette.

Should be replaced with two burly (male) FAs who in a fit of rage order pax to stand up, be searched and warned that he will be arrested once the aircraft arrives. Final shot will be pax, handcuffed and being pushed into police van.

That would get the message across:ok:

As a life long non smoker, I am one of those delighted that pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc. have now become smoke free as have planes. However, I do think that smokers should be able to smoke in the street, as much as I dislike walking into a cloud of spewed out fag smoke, unlike my other half who often remonstrates with the offenders!

What has always bemused me about cigarettes is that tobacco is a drug, made freely available to everyone and accepted by society (less so these days). Would we feel the same if people were openly snorting or injecting drugs? No. It's just the money in cigarettes that keeps them on the shelves, IMO anyway.

Back to onboard non-smoking and the ashtrays, I have flown with some airlines that don't have them screwed shut and yes, they are invariably full of gum!

As for no smoking at airports, at Budapest in particular, the toilets are like the toilets at school, full of fag smoke as people puff away in the cubicles. I've had the same experience at Amsterdam, but less so. Smokers WILL push the boundaries to get their fix, they have to, they are after all addicts.

Fair enough FWOF - but offenders they are not - what offence have they committed?

Yes, the US tobacco lobby has (so far) kept the "banners" at bay by agreeing to certain advertising restrictions and not putting up too much objection to the hounding of smokers.

Cocaine, MJ, heroin etc. are all foreign products. You can bet that if the natives had been growing the green in Virginia when Raleigh visited, then that's what would be in legal cigarettes today.

It's the money, like you say. cf alcohol, a far more dangerous legal drug.

Cannot agree with that.

For the vast majority of people, who use alcohol sensibly and in moderation, it is completely harmless. It's more controversial, I'd agree, but there have even been suggestions made that some alcohol has been thought beneficial ! ( the French, regular red wine, reduced heart attacks ).

Possible beneficial effects of tobacco smoking ? . . . . ZERO - period.

Danger to others I meant.

An offence to my lungs. Nothing in the law about it, I know that, but I find if offensive.

I don't know - I feel sorry for the poor mugs who have to puff away in the street, better that than sitting next to me inside.

As an ex smoker (20 years) I regard myself as a reasonable "live and let live" kind of person but I believe the ban to be necessary and enforced by law. Where I live smokers are in the majority, the ban is left very much at the discretion of the management of each individual establishment and therefore rarely enforced for fear of losing custom. Signs at the entrance proclaiming "Smoking permitted" are the norm. Non smokers just have to do the best they can to avoid the worst of it. This, I'm afraid is how it would be in the UK without some control, whether it be pubs, clubs or aircraft.
Having said that, my wife is a smoker although never smokes at home, nothing to do with my health though, she just doesn't want the ceiling to go nicotine colour.:rolleyes:

I worked as a dispatcher for a european cargo airline at a UK airport and was taken aback when i took the paperwork to the aircraft to find the female First Officer with the R1 door open puffing away. We were loading dangerous goods at the time!!

Its not just the pax!