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Cyclone733 26th Jul 2008 14:51

"Women try to open door mid-flight"
 
BBC NEWS | UK | Women try to open door mid-flight

Not sure how recent this is


A plane was forced to make an emergency landing in Germany after two British women tried to open a cabin door mid-flight, police have said.

The women, aged 26 and 27, were drinking heavily
Any chance that we'll ban alcohol on board or that just wishfull thinking?

British women held for emergency landing in Germany

Dogma 26th Jul 2008 15:03

which airline?

Ban them for life! End of!

glad rag 26th Jul 2008 15:11

How much is the cost of a diversion?

yamaha 26th Jul 2008 15:13

I am sorry for you Brits but slowly losing control of your own society. You are forgetting how one should behave.

I don't say that with any pleasure as the good or even great things from British culture have spread themselves worldwide.

However Knives, alcohol, ASBO's, where will it end?

What a shame to see a true stately country descend to such unruly levels.

olivermbs 26th Jul 2008 15:13

The airline appears to be Thomson (TOM248A), B738, not sure though (the flightplan took them just south of Frankfurt, so would make sense).

HeathrowAirport 26th Jul 2008 15:21

XL Airways flight XLA 237 from Kos to Manchester.


Earlier this month a plane full of British tourists, including children, had to make an unscheduled stop in Bermuda after a drunken passenger tried to open the door when the aircraft was 50,000ft over the Atlantic.
Police boarded the First Choice Boeing 767-300 at Bermuda airport and led the man away after he had been abusive to other passengers and cabin crew.

Seriously what **** wrote that? The only Pax plane to go near that was Concorde if i am correct. Does not Include ConcordeSki!

Drunken British women 'attack airline staff with vodka bottle and try to open plane doors' | Mail Online


Boeing 737 -900 Also noted by Mail On Sunday to be a similar to 787.

Rainboe 26th Jul 2008 15:21


I am sorry for you Brits but slowly losing control of your own society. You are forgetting how one should behave.

I don't say that with any pleasure as the good or even great things from British culture have spread themselves worldwide.

However Knives, alcohol, ASBO's, where will it end?

What a shame to see a true stately country descend to such unruly levels.
Yet more idiocy from you. Nobody else in the world gets drunk? Less of your nationalistic nonsense please! I see drunkards in Spain at Fiesta time, I see drunkards all over Europe in the streets. I see drunkards panhandling in the States and Canada. People with drink problems are everywhere- it is becoming a western society problem. You have lost a lot of respect here and now wish to get your own back on Brit Pruners. What a wally of a posting!

Michael SWS 26th Jul 2008 15:21


Originally Posted by yamaha
I am sorry for you Brits but slowly losing control of your own society. You are forgetting how one should behave.

I don't say that with any pleasure as the good or even great things from British culture have spread themselves worldwide.

However Knives, alcohol, ASBO's, where will it end?

What a shame to see a true stately country descend to such unruly levels.

It's absolutely true, and shocking to those of us who live in the UK as well as those observing from overseas.

There is a small section of British society that is unruly and out of control, and it makes the entire country a less pleasant place in which to live.

Let's hope these two women are slapped with such a fine that they will never be able to afford to get intoxicated again.


Originally Posted by Rainboe
Yet more idiocy from you. Nobody else in the world gets drunk? Less of your nationalistic nonsense please! I see drunkards in Spain at Fiesta time, I see drunkards all over Europe in the streets. I see drunkards panhandling in the States and Canada. People with drink problems are everywhere- it is becoming a western society problem. You have lost a lot of respect here and now wish to get your own back on Brit Pruners. What a wally of a posting!

I disagree, Rainboe. What yamaha says is absolutely true

It is nothing to do with drunks on street corners. There is a section of British society that is completely out of control and does not know how to behave in public. Whether it's shouting into mobile phones on public transport or pissing in the street after a night of binge drinking, they are out of control. It's a national embarrassment.

vpaul 26th Jul 2008 15:24

Women try to open door mid-flight
 
Some News from BBC Site......






A plane was forced to make an emergency landing in Germany after two British women tried to open a cabin door mid-flight, police have said.
The women, aged 26 and 27, were drinking heavily and had to be held in their seats by security staff until the plane landed in Frankfurt.
They were then arrested, a spokesman for the Frankfurt force said.
The flight was on its way from the Greek island of Kos to Manchester when the incident happened.
The incident happened at an altitude of 10,000 metres, according to Reuters news agency.
Hartmut Scherer, a spokesman for police at Frankfurt International Airport, said the women had become violent with flight attendants over Austria.
The 26-year-old woman is reported to have repeatedly tried to strike a flight attendant with a vodka bottle she had carried with her on the plane after the crew refused to serve the pair any more alcohol.
Reuters said she then tried, unsuccessfully, to unlatch a nearby cabin door.
"She evidently wanted to get some fresh air and tried to open the door, which obviously did not work," Mr Scherer is quoted as saying.
The women face charges of grievous bodily harm and violating air traffic regulations. The plane later flew on to Manchester with a two-hour delay. German media reported that the airline would charge the pair for the cost of the diversion.

411A 26th Jul 2008 15:26


Let's hope these two women are slapped with such a fine that they will never be able to afford to get intoxicated again.
Forget fines, no matter how large.
Hard jail time is what is needed to curb this nonsense...say 5 years, minimum.

Michael SWS 26th Jul 2008 15:30


Originally Posted by 411A
Forget fines, no matter how large.
Hard jail time is what is needed to curb this nonsense...say 5 years, minimum.

Prison is not the answer. There are already too many people in our prisons, and locking up two more at public expense will not help.

If the airline were to charge them the full cost of the diversion it would be just as much of a deterrent as being banged up, and would cost us all a great deal less.

rubik101 26th Jul 2008 15:32

Sadly, alcohol will never be banned as it raises too much revenue. Stopping on board sales will only cause more people to open the booze they have bought in the airport shop.

A few drops of opiate in their G&T might help.

Rainboe, you have it wrong, I'm afraid. The drunks you saw on your travels around Europe would almost certainly be Brits. Having lived in Berlin, Corfu and Palma for a few years each, I can say that local folks who had taken too much drink would perhaps be seen on the street during festivals. Out and out drunks, wasted, drunk, staggering, rowdy drunk, on a regular basis, week in, week out, as is the case here in UK, is very, very rare.

I have no experience of the USA so cannot comment.

qwertyplop 26th Jul 2008 15:38

Sitting on the fence - does cabin crew have some questions to answer here? OK - they may have boarded the flight with the grog but should this have been picked up before it became an issue?

And why do they serve folks who are clearly incapable of taking the drink? I was behind someone the other day as SLF who was barely capable of getting off the aircraft and yet was served grog throughout the flight.

He kicked off at passport control and was dealt with expeditiously by the passport control officers with the help of the police.

Could easily have been avoided though. Airlines just want to make an extra quid or two I hear you cry - but they've lost out here with their divert.

Can of worms?

Phil1980's 26th Jul 2008 15:41

You say Prison would be at "public expense" but they are probably scrounging off the Dole anyway...and that guy who is about britain being stately...well two things...one I hate Yobs and two I hate Snobs...I don't like the class system as it is...so people snubbing others is wrong...I am however not wanting to live in England for both of the Snobs and Yobs reasons...Thankyou :)
And erm...tell that woman that you are also not allowed to smoke outside the plane especially when it's inflight luv! :p

pineridge 26th Jul 2008 16:14

Michael SWS said......

" it's shouting into mobile phones on public transport or pissing in the street after a night of binge drinking,"


That`s S.O.P.`s here in the frozen North, old thing.

glhcarl 26th Jul 2008 16:18


There is a section of British society that is completely out of control and does not know how to behave in public.
I am sad to say the the UK is not alone with this problem!

Rainboe 26th Jul 2008 16:23

I think some of you are not very 'worldy'. Inebriation is very much a world problem. My impression is there is far too much drinking, but everyone is doing it. I take my delight in seeing objectionable people doing it as shortening their lives....significantly. But we need no pious lectures on how the UK is going to the dogs. Some of the worst drunkenness and vandalism I have seen myself has been in Australia. It doesn't mean the country is going down the tubes, just that people like a drink. But some of you think it an excuse for self-flagellation. We have a problem.....like everyone else has.

Panic button 99 26th Jul 2008 16:25

XL Airways

BBC NEWS | UK | Women try to open door mid-flight

Nashers 26th Jul 2008 16:32

http://www.pprune.org/forums/rumours...id-flight.html

llondel 26th Jul 2008 16:43

Rainboe is correct, it happens pretty much anywhere in Western society. What is different is the local perception and reporting of the events. The mainstream British press is outraged when one of its citizens does something bad, whereas other countries may have different tolerance levels. I remember in the days when football hooligans were more prevalent, it was pointed out that after an Italian match, the fans ran down a street breaking a few windows and doing other unpleasant things and it wasn't really mentioned in the Italian press because it was normal 'high spirits'. Had it happened in the UK, the media would have been all over it for disgraceful behaviour.

Yes, charge them for the full cost of the diversion and ban them from flying for several years.


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