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skydriller 14th Sep 2006 07:53

There was a bit on the BBC last night saying these stupid restrictions will be lifted in the UK next week, and hand baggage security rules are going back to normal.....:D

......I sincerely hope so, but there were few specific details on the news peice, and I dont want to raise anyones hopes too far just yet!!:suspect:

Regards, SD..

docash1983 16th Sep 2006 14:34

hand baggage restictions for flying into the UK
 
Hi,
I am due to fly out of Las Palmas this evening back to BHX. Does anybody know whether the UK hand baggage restrictions apply in Gran Canaria for UK bound passengers?:ugh: any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Docash1983

BRUpax 16th Sep 2006 14:56

No, they only apply outbound UK.

Globaliser 17th Sep 2006 13:38

Possible details of eased restrictions this week
 
Sunday Times article says that UK airports will move from 45cm x 35cm x 16cm probably to 56cm x 45cm x 25cm (ie pretty much the standard bag size pre-kerfuffle), limited amounts of liquids through security checkpoints, announcement tomorrow (Monday) and in force Friday.

If so, the carpenters are going to be busy on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, making new sizer boxes. Job for life!

lexxity 17th Sep 2006 15:04

Oh I do hope so, life will be so much easier again, not just for us on check in, but for our passengers too. No doubt though, as Globaliser says, they will have to make new boxes.

Oh lovely, new cardboard boxes on our desks.:p

Man-on-the-fence 19th Sep 2006 02:22

Well I went through with no problem. Why? Because no-one checked the size of my bag!!!!

Utterly pointless

masalaairlines 21st Sep 2006 12:53

:ok: Just confirmed on the beeb today as well. From Friday we are back to the good old days. (well almost!)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5367096.stm

Globaliser 21st Sep 2006 15:06


Originally Posted by Mike Jenvey (Post 2864928)
Nope, still only one item of cabin luggage

That is back to normal for most of us! Now the airside shops are likely to start getting more business out of me. If I can pack a bag for a weekend, I will no longer check in anything at all, and will therefore start to buy toothpaste etc at the shops. (I was just bringing my own when I had to check a bag anyway.)

Globaliser 21st Sep 2006 19:02


Originally Posted by Mike Jenvey (Post 2864998)
True, but if you fly almost every week, sometimes more, like I do (& some business pax fly 2 - 3 times a week from UK airports), then that's a lot of toothpaste, aftershave, shaving foam, deodorant & other liquid/gel goodies that will mount up back at home!!
...
I still don't follow the logic (or lack of it!) to explain why there are no such restrictions (or very limited ones) for flights that operate from European (& other) countries into UK airspace. Why is it that your shaving foam is deemed dangerous when you take-off over London, but not when landing??!! :confused:

Agreed if you're a frequent traveller. Although I suspect that most of those who fly 3 times a week aren't stopping overnight on every trip. ;)

As for why we have the restrictions, my best guess is that it's because the terrorists are here, not there. But as time goes on, and the possibility increases of a more sophisticated replacement plot that involves first travelling overseas to take advantage of less stringent security regulations, the differential will become harder to justify.

Phileas Fogg 21st Sep 2006 19:23

I'm travelling next Monday so what exactly may I expect, I can travel with my regular size hand baggage that would normally contain everything I need for my trip but my toothpaste and deodorant must be checked into the hold?

What is the point and if so, I guess that I'll turn up with my hand laggage as normal and with a pathetic little paper bag containing my toothpaste and deodorant, I can just imagine the baggage trolley on it's way out to the aircraft only loaded with toothpaste & deodorant.

And if there is a 'Boots the Chemist' in the departures hall, has all their toothpaste & deodorant been security cleared?

Phileas Fogg 21st Sep 2006 20:59

Greetings Mike,
We actually know each other, an acquaintance that terminated on Friday the 13th September 2002 :)

Having worked in aviation for 30+ years I fully respect aviation security but this really is bordering on the ridiculous, we can check-in with our hand baggage as normal but we need to arrive with a 'doggy bag' of deodorant & toothpaste.

I'm actually laughing at such a scenario of the baggage handlers taking out 150 ish doggy bags, no suitcases, to the aircraft, each and every one of which could contain an explosive device, that's the doggy bags, not the handlers :)

172driver 21st Sep 2006 22:26

some sense - at last
 
well, looks like sense is returning

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...368362,00.html

according to this it's pretty much back to where we were before this whole idiocy

Phileas Fogg 22nd Sep 2006 08:58

From Friday 22nd September 2006, hand baggage rules will be as follows:

One item of hand baggage
Maximum height, width and depth of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm
Maximum weight of 7kg
Please note that the DFT have advised that the following security measures still apply:

Liquids: restrictions remain in place, meaning no liquids of any type can be taken through the airport security point. The only exceptions to this are, essential medicines in liquid form and baby milk and baby food. Passengers will be required to provide authenticity of liquid medicines and each bottle / jar of baby milk/food must be tasted by the accompanying passenger.

For clarification, liquids include the following: aerosols, deodorant, drinks, hair gel and wax, perfume, shaving foams and gels, soups, syrups and toothpaste.

172driver 22nd Sep 2006 09:27

Phileas,

Sorry, this is incorrect. Below from the DfT website:


Cabin Baggage

ONE item only of cabin baggage is permitted through the airport security search point, the dimensions of this item must not exceed: a maximum length of 56 cm, width of 45 cm and depth of 25 cm (including wheels, handles, side pockets etc.). Other bags, such as handbags, may be carried within the single item of cabin baggage. All items carried by passengers will be x-ray screened.
The link to the page is here

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ut_612280.hcsp

Gulfstreamaviator 22nd Sep 2006 13:25

Musical Instrument
 
I use my lap top to create music, it is a vital musical instrument to myself and many others.

Can I therefore claim the new carry on allowance "bag", as well as my musical lap top....

Glf

Globaliser 22nd Sep 2006 13:57


Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg (Post 2865331)
What is the point and if so, I guess that I'll turn up with my hand laggage as normal and with a pathetic little paper bag containing my toothpaste and deodorant, I can just imagine the baggage trolley on it's way out to the aircraft only loaded with toothpaste & deodorant.

Just the one bag to check, sir? :)

lexxity 22nd Sep 2006 17:37

Well your bag obviously made it. :p :p

I tell you what, those of us on checkin have discovered some interesting and creative ways of packing small items recently. Old boardingcard box? Ideal for putting bottles of perfume in. Old leaflet box? Ideal for packing the entire contents of an expensive handbag in. Packing said boxes with bin liners as protection. Yep, no bother.:ok:

flufdriver 10th Dec 2006 00:50

I do want to thank all of you for bringing this issue to the attention of those of us who would normally pass through London when doing intercontinental traveling, henceforth I will avoid passing through there if at all possible.

Exersizing that option will however force me to go through the US which I can also do without as they have similarly silly rules. The difference is however, that the saviors of mankind who staff the security checkpoints in the US, tend to be a little less anal then their UK counterparts.

But of course, like everything else this issue too has an upside! Commercial aviation is being slowly throttled to death, this will greatly reduce the dexhaust emissions in the atmosphere, which hopefully will have a positive influence on global warming.

I wish everyone an enjoyable Christmas ( and if you don't celebrate that festive holiday you can simply ignore this sentence as logically it does not apply to you) :}


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