Twin Aisle,

You seem to have summed up the crews feelings on the NCW product alright. However I just wish to make two observations based on what you said.

The reading lights have been replaced from the ceiling to the lip above the headrest in order to reduce light interference with your neighbours, although yes the current switch is a bit gimmicky.

Also I dont feel the Club Kitchen may have been set up fully on your flight as there should be a chiller full of icecreams, salads, sandwiches and a handful of other goodies too. They are also slowly introducing microwaves to support the club kitchen and we will eventually have snacks to be heated too.

Hope that helps!

Any news on the roll-out of the new Club World config. to the 777 fleet? Apart from any "bonus" personal travel, I treat myself to two trips to visit chums in Florida each year and since the parky bo11ox kicked in I buy the Club World product (I tried WT+ to USA and Club World back once but price difference was minimal!). I am delighted that the seat config appears to be retained - I do so love my 3 windows!


The Banking Scot - you mentioned your parents not being allocated seats ahead of T-24? When I did my Feb/Mar trip having booked my ticket in November 2006, the seat I was originally allocated was the seat on offer to me at online check-in and ... was my seat of choice! So if your parents have their preferences set (I am only a humble 'Blue these days too) then that should work for them OK :ok:


TwinAisle - great sitrep (to be expected, mate, LTNS!) ... will be interesting to experience the new product for meself!


As for whoever it was a few pages back who wrote that biz travellers don't speak loudly may I utter a resounding "hah"!! Three US biz types kept the front cabin on my last autumn return flight to UK totally awake with their self-important biz-chat. Were I in the travel business I would have had their new "product" in the bag before landing!! Usually, though, the TPA/LGW flights are great - a lot of retired Brits with homes in FL who just don't want to create mayhem... it is actually civilised flying!!! :ok:


Having flown with BA (mostly) for over 35yrs I probably won't change now - although the Virgin product is fun a flight to MCO is too out of my way! :)

Thanks Paddy - I should have added that the crew were terrific as well - on the long night flight back from HKG there was no demand for food apart from the meals that I could see, so perhaps the team just didn't bother putting it out. Can't say I blame them!

Hey Brock - LTNS indeed - when you in these parts again?

TA

Same question as brokenspectre - what's the schedule for the NCW rollout on LGW 777s? Looking at splashing out on it to Orlando next May, but would want to be pretty confident that it would be the new product, as travelling with a youngster AVOD is extremely attractive! It would give them a definite lift against the Virgin flights, as the 744s they use out of Gatwick don't seem to have it.

According to CC on yesterdays flight back from Boston, approx 18 747s only have been converted with 777s not expected until late 2007/2008.

And good ole Heathrow - 1 hour sitting by the runway waiting for a gate.

You will love this then Manintheback,

The lastest Galley FM i heard is that the 777 cabins are unable to fit the new Club World seats in an 8 across layout. So instead of reducing the capacity they are trying to rework to design so that the same units will be in a staggered fashion. Not rather sure what that means as I dont think they are talking about a herringbone layout but sure, lets wait and see!

WT+ on New Club World a/c
 

If WT+ is in front of new club world, does that mean those passengers diseambark the aircraft prior to the Club World passengers?

Can someone let me know as it infuriates me that BA don't seem to prioritise disembarking (standard practice I've discovered on VS)?

Yes, WT+ pax disembark before CW pax.

BA highlighted many obstacles in the creation of the Mid-J fleet. Reverse priority in disembarkation between W and J was one of them. However the additional revenue generated across the network from having 14 extra J seats was decided to far outweigh the negative perceptions some CW pax will have regarding the new layout.

Thanks, Spanish Flea.

One other question - does that mean CW and WT+ share toilets etc? How is it segregated? Flying in First (or even maybe CW) it would infuriate me if the toilets were occupied by WT+ pax.

First definitly has its own Galley and toilet area segregated from the rest of the aircraft.

Can't remember how the arrangement goes between WT+ and CW on the lower deck though. I'll take a look on my flights this week and see.

SEND YOUR LETTERS INTO BA IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE LAYOUT....They are not listening to the crew!

Ooops, not shouting....just making a strong point! LOL!

Nope, lower deck WTP definitely not allowed in the Club Lavs. From memory the bulkhead separating WTP and Club doesn't actually have a lav built into it. WTP have to turn round and wander back to the WT facilities.

So WT+ pax have to walk through the downstairs CW cabin to get to the WT lavs??? This is all very confusing. Is it too silly to ask why BA didn't put CW where WT+ is??

No. This WTPlus cabin is between doors 1&2. There is a toilet for the WTP passengers within this cabin at the back, just in front of door 2 left. Then after door 2, is the Club World cabin with toilets for the club passengers. The WTP passengers are far more likely to use the First toilets, as these are just in front of their seats. A closed curtain and some polite advice is given to save these toilets for the First passengers.

When I'm in F it seems such advice to CW pax doesn't work, so maybe they should drop the "polite" bit!

Whats the latest regarding the 777s with the NCW and do any have AVOD yet?

Hi Alex 009,

I uderstand that the first 777 maybe outfitted with NGCW and AVOD begining in April/May 2008.

None of the 777s have AVOD/NGCW currently.

Regards

TBS

When I'm in F it seems such advice to CW pax doesn't work, so maybe they should drop the "polite" bit!

Maybe it is time that some people got a life and focused on the more important things.

F3G - a frequent F traveler, who does not mind sharing the loo with others

777s with NCW - don't hold your breath! Safety tests still not completed. They're saying that fitting out the 777 will start in the summer - as the airline "summer" lasts til the clocks change, I wouldn't be getting too excited.

My BA CC neighbour tells me theres a strong suspicion that the 777 refit is on hold indefinitely. BA Website now strongly promotes old club world as 'award winning'. Last year you would hardly have known it was still in much of the fleet.