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MARTHA 17th Feb 2006 09:41

RYANAIRS STEALTH LEVY
 
ON A FLIGHT FROM DUBLIN TO LONDON AND BACK TO DUBLIN
€15.40 FOR PSC WHATS THE BREAKDOWN ON PSC
€ 5.24 WHEELCHAIR LEVY & INSURANCE
TOTAL STEALTH CHARGE FOR ROUND TRIP €41.28
WE WONT MENTION BAGGAGE LEVY JUST YET
ANY COMMENTS?

N380UA 17th Feb 2006 10:33

You got DUB – LGW(I presume) – DUB for 41.28 Euros and are complaining?
Sad world this has become…

Phileas Fogg 17th Feb 2006 10:46

So?

For the same trip DUB-LON-DUB:

BMI GBP42.00 + GBP31.55 Extra's

BA GBP44.00 + GBP41.50 Extra's

LH GBP42.00 + GBP53.80 Extra's

AF GBP55.00 + GBP50.23 Extra's

jackbauer 17th Feb 2006 10:53

You get what you pay fot I'm afraid. Pay PEANUTS you get MONKEY'S.

angels 17th Feb 2006 10:54

Martha - you haven't quite got the hang of this yet, have you.

See you in Airlines/Routes, or perhaps SLF.

-8AS 17th Feb 2006 11:11

£41 return Dublin. Used to be in excess of £700.00 when BA and AerLingus held a Duopoly in the Mid 1980's! Still, hardly rumours or news is it. Best in SLF forum I think.

P.S. You don't have to travel with Ryanair. Thats what Market economies are all about. Consumers have choice!

hobie 17th Feb 2006 11:21

Try it by Train and Ferry ...... you will get far more time to see the scenery .... :p

Elwood Senese 17th Feb 2006 11:29

Correct me if I'm wrong... but the post doesn't seem to refer to the fare, which may or may not have been extra.

Conan The Barber 17th Feb 2006 11:30

RTFQ As they say

A320rider 17th Feb 2006 11:39

this is IF you have the flight, in GOOD weather.

IF not, you loose your ticket, and you have to fly with someone else.

with ryanair, it s like the "roulette russe", except you have 5 bullets in your gun!:ugh:

Loose rivets 17th Feb 2006 11:42

Isn't it all about companies being up-front with their charges?...just having the courtesy to tell people the real cost of a commodity, cheap or not.

Phileas Fogg 17th Feb 2006 12:00

Loose Rivets,
Yes, it would be nice if the companies were up front with their charges but atleast with RYR one should know that they pay for everything and get nothing complimentary.

But, if what RYR is doing is so wrong then why have all the state airlines jumped on the bandwagon and how many of the travelling public expect, or indeed know, that they need to pay for their food & beverages on such carriers as Austrian & SAS to name but two.

worldwidewolly 17th Feb 2006 12:01

To be fair to Ryanair, all their charges are on their website.

Compare the cost of your flight now to 10 yrs ago.
Leaving out inflation you still get a very good deal.

Norman Stanley Fletcher 17th Feb 2006 12:16

In fairness to Martha, I think the more critical posts may have missed her point. It seems to me that her complaint is regarding the hidden nature of the charges which are not immediately apparent when you book a fare with Ryanair (and increasingly with other airlines as well). You can argue that the surcharges are all on the website somewhere but the truth is that the fares being presented basically do not exist.

For example, if you see a £0.99 fare from Stansted to Bologna, there is a clear suggestion that this is what you will pay. It is, alas, not what you pay as there is an increasing range of charges (taxes, baggage, etc) added to your fare. Ryanair are clearly misrepresenting the cost of one of their tickets in that it is not possible under any circumstances to travel anywhere for £0.99. To argue that it is still really cheap is missing the point. The answer to this lies in regulatory action. It is in everyone's interest that they know up front the real cost of a flight with a particular airline.

May I present as an excellent case example the situation with home computers? Up until recently it was common practice to quote prices without VAT - a practice that was defended to the hilt by virtually everyone involved but has now ceased. The reason it ceased was regulatory intervention because it was simply not possible to buy a computer in the UK without paying VAT. The quotation of a price that could not actually be achieved was rightly seen as unacceptable and a misrepresentation of the truth. Such is the case with Ryanair who are probably the worst offender in the industry with regards to this essentially dishonest practice.

DistantRumble 17th Feb 2006 12:21

Again, we'll probably be moved soon to SLF but

NSF makes some interesting points :

if , for example, you miss a flight with Ryanair you would expect to lose just the ticket fare and credit card booking

However if you try and recover the PSC you will find Ryanair will make it v. difficult to do so
- you haven't passed through to Airside so haven't been through the check; why should you have to pay ...

in addition Aer Rianta or whatever they call themselves today do publish their charging breakdowns on their web pages if you are interested.

Phileas Fogg 17th Feb 2006 12:31

Just go to the world's favourite airline website and it will clearly state a sector far of perhaps GBP22.00, as with Ryanair, it gives an indication that this is the price you will pay, will you boIIocks!

I guess a matter for the industry watchdog, all the airlines are at it now!

Cyrano 17th Feb 2006 12:36

Currently also being discussed over here in this Pax and SLF thread...

PAXboy 17th Feb 2006 12:55


a £0.99 fare from Stansted to Bologna, there is a clear suggestion that this is what you will pay
No there is not because you have tio go through several pages with the add-ons in large numbers on the screen. They have had the court cases and now make the prices perfectly clear BEFORE you pay. RTF Screen!

Fargoo 17th Feb 2006 13:14

I work for BA and unfortunately we're rapidly outdoing everyone for extra charges on top of the standard fare. If our fuel surcharge gets any bigger I might have to stop using staff travel :p

Rainboe 17th Feb 2006 13:26

I've not booked Ryanair, but all the other airlines I've flown with make it quite clear and the information is easily available on their websites as to exactly what the extras like PSC and taxes are. These are additional charges for someone else collected by the airline involved. There is no reason they should all be included in one fee for travel- that hides the nature of the charges from the customer. It is good the customer is made aware of the other charges being made to him and exactly what is being charged for the air travel that he wants!


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