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BitMoreRightRudder 6th Feb 2006 08:29

The point is you don't need circa 10,000 hours to get a command in a decent company, and I think it's piss poor that you are generalising that every captain at Ryanair with around 4000 hours is inferior to a captain of similar experience in another 'reputable' airline. Yes there have been alarming incidents in their recent history and I despise the way O'Leary operates.

For the record I don't work for them and I have no vested interest in defending them, but I do believe in granting their pilots some respect.

The Real Slim Shady 6th Feb 2006 09:11

BitMore RightRudder has hit the nail on the head.
VFE and JB are taking a very straightforward question, which was answered in a most considered way, and simply ignoring that answer.
Not content with that, they try to serve us with their own Ready, Steady, Cook masterpiece: a hotchpotch of ingredients cobbled together, which has the veneer of a Cordon Bleu dish but on inspection is raw and bitter. Just add a sprinkle of Ryanair, to spice things up, an unhealthy ladle full of fermented vitriol, a liberal serving of homemade meritocracy, top it with generalisation and add a dollop of whipped up arrogance for good measure.
It is extremely easy to bandy around words like reputable or disreputable; to hang those claims on such trivia as firm or soft landings or to obliquely reference the gentleness of the landing to experience or ability signifies a complete lack of understanding of swept wing aircraft handling and a robust indifference to the mutual respect we have for each other.
Selecting an item in isolation and using it to colour wash the entire canvas is a simple, attention grabbing headline technique analagous to a child throwing a tantrum.

HotelGym 6th Feb 2006 09:36

Slim Shady, do all Ryanair pilots take classes in evasive and flowery english? Your post is worthy of a LHC award for services to bull****. I for one agree with VFE and JB about the level FR has dropped to. I am very curious about the chief training capt and his sim failures, is it true?

jackbauer 6th Feb 2006 12:46

http://images.bm4.metropol.dk/205/20...972_normal.jpg Just when Slim shady thought it was safe to tell us how great the Ryanair landings were this happens today in Aarhus. Bet it was a greaser, thankfully nobody hurt, except the capts pride, how many hours did he have? Perhaps it was the chief training capt. FR is getting a real collection of these incidents, so far we have Skavsta, Beauvais, Ciampino and now Aarhus. Where next?

TightSlot 6th Feb 2006 14:17

That's enough
 
Thread closed - it is getting heated and going nowhere. I only know thumbnail details of the incident shown in the image above, but what I do know is that the report into it has not yet been published, and therefore speculation about the cause and blame is precisely that. Attempting to make a general point about an airline from a specific incident, in the absence of facts, is clearly unwise.


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