Coronavirus and Aircraft Cabins
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The cabin spraying is standard when leaving South Africa even though it has often been revealed to be, essentially, useless. There may be some bugs and insects that are airborne at the moment that the spray hits them but there is more chance that one has got into your luggage whilst being packed at a house or hotel. I always cover my face carefully when they spray and keep it covered for at least a minute.
I always cover my face carefully when they spray and keep it covered for at least a minute.
What if plane cabins were steam-cleaned ? Relatively un-toxic, kills most bacteria and virus and fungus for that matter. Only downside might be ingress into electronic compartments for the IFE and overhead controls etc.
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I suppose that a deep clean wouldn't be done too often (hopefully) but I'm truly curious as to how the Corona Express 747 has been cleaned after each repatriation flight.
Two months from now there won't be anywhere of much significance without community transmission; the period of trying to keep it out is rapidly passing, to be replaced by trying to avoid transmission within your community. Certainly in six months the hazard of travel will be exposure to fellow travellers, not getting stranded by quarantine.
This taken from a paragraph in some article about Covid and aircraft.:
Cathay Pacific, a Hong Kong carrier, is disinfecting plane surfaces after every single flight including meal tables and arm rests.
Planes that carried passengers infected with the coronavirus are given extra cleaning attention and disinfection.
Qantas, an Australian airline, is disinfecting their planes with Viraclean, a strong disinfectant that kills everything from Hepatitis B to herpes. They are also removing headrests, pillow covers and blankets after every flight.
Korean Air is using MD-125 to disinfect their planes, a strong cleaning solution that kills bacteria and viruses ranging from HIV to measles.
Cathay Pacific, a Hong Kong carrier, is disinfecting plane surfaces after every single flight including meal tables and arm rests.
Planes that carried passengers infected with the coronavirus are given extra cleaning attention and disinfection.
Qantas, an Australian airline, is disinfecting their planes with Viraclean, a strong disinfectant that kills everything from Hepatitis B to herpes. They are also removing headrests, pillow covers and blankets after every flight.
Korean Air is using MD-125 to disinfect their planes, a strong cleaning solution that kills bacteria and viruses ranging from HIV to measles.
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Aircraft now the least of our worries. Here are two examples that should worry everyone in the UK and may be happening in their own country.
A receptionist from a GP surgery was asked by colleagues in early February if she was still going to take her holiday in South Korea - given how Covid19 was alredy clearly evidenced there? She said that she and her daughter would be fine as they had been to the country before.
The woman came back with flu symptoms and is at home awaiting testing. After a few days, she phoned her office (the surgery) and said, "I'm feeling better now, I can probably come back in next week." She had to be told that, until she had the test and was clear NO. That display of ignorance is from a woman who works IN a medical facility.
The same medical facility had two young men walk in, as they had been on skiing holiday in Italy and one of them had flu symptoms. The staff had to clear the waiting room and the corridor the men had been in for special cleaning. The men thought it funny and had to have it explained to them that the elderly people they met in the street/shops and the waiting room might not appreciate their infection.
Both people had ignored the widely publicised health information that the TV, Radio and Papers have been stating every day for a month.
I know about these events at one single GP surgery, because I know someone who works there.
A receptionist from a GP surgery was asked by colleagues in early February if she was still going to take her holiday in South Korea - given how Covid19 was alredy clearly evidenced there? She said that she and her daughter would be fine as they had been to the country before.
The woman came back with flu symptoms and is at home awaiting testing. After a few days, she phoned her office (the surgery) and said, "I'm feeling better now, I can probably come back in next week." She had to be told that, until she had the test and was clear NO. That display of ignorance is from a woman who works IN a medical facility.
The same medical facility had two young men walk in, as they had been on skiing holiday in Italy and one of them had flu symptoms. The staff had to clear the waiting room and the corridor the men had been in for special cleaning. The men thought it funny and had to have it explained to them that the elderly people they met in the street/shops and the waiting room might not appreciate their infection.
Both people had ignored the widely publicised health information that the TV, Radio and Papers have been stating every day for a month.
I know about these events at one single GP surgery, because I know someone who works there.
BA are cleaning nothing. You still get free leftovers from the previous people on your seat, free crumbs, free stains and dirty bedding.
All with no extra charge.
All with no extra charge.
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I see this headline: 'Tinie Tempah reveals anger of 'disgusting' and 'dirty' British Airways plane seat.
Once again, social media exposes an airline. You can look for the story but he felt he had to clean his seat before sitting down. He is a popular musician with many followers.
Once again, social media exposes an airline. You can look for the story but he felt he had to clean his seat before sitting down. He is a popular musician with many followers.
I was on a short haul EI flight a few months back and on taking my seat there was a strong smell of cheese/feet. I asked the nearby cabin crew if the previous passengers of the row had had an accident. They laughed and said "No, but they did demolish a huge packet of Cheesy Wotsits!" :-) There were indeed crumbs all over the floor and a few between the seats. I asked why there hadn't been a clean-up and was told that after a poll of frequent flyers on EI, they were asked which had greater priority, a cleaned aircraft or an on-time aircraft. And that's that.....Long haul dirty aircraft are a no-no, there should be enough time allocated to present a good product for the customers spending a long time and a lot of money for their flight.
I am heartened to see that aircraft HEPA filters are up to the job of scrubbing the cabin air of harmful virus/bacteria and fungus according to several reports of late. Nothing is foolproof, but it's a comfort to know when stuck in an aluminium tube for many hours. I hope that any engineers who are tasked to change/clean said filters are taking the necessary precautions for themselves and others.
There must be a large number of aircraft by now that have carried passengers from quarantined areas who have later found to be infected with the corona virus. Has any form of disinfection/fumigation been carried out. Does anyone know if that might be a good idea? Given that there's a 14 day incubation period it looks as if otherwise the aircraft themselves mignt be carriers, as well as the passengers.
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Another update on my normal schuttle around Europe. No masks on outbound to Munich a few in Munich, and did not notice any at LHR today and noticed one white European- looked to be English and very self conscious on the tube. Most masks are on people of Chinese ethnicity in my observations and this is not uncommon without a virus threat. Tube as busy as ever, and my carriage heading back up to Yorkshire on 17.03 ex Kings Cross is around 80% ,full with no masks. I am outbound in theory to Houston next week so will be intresting to see how the " cousins" are faring by then. I am supposed to be on SQ from Manchester but that may change. My staff are still travelling though with obvious precautions, and only to certain projects, and only if critical to us or client. Have to say apart from a sub continent client all have been very understanding. We will see how long that pans out for over a longer period when project progress and program starts to be materially compromised.
Happy travels to one and all .
Ps lounges are quieter 🙂
Kind regards
Mr Mac
Another update on my normal schuttle around Europe. No masks on outbound to Munich a few in Munich, and did not notice any at LHR today and noticed one white European- looked to be English and very self conscious on the tube. Most masks are on people of Chinese ethnicity in my observations and this is not uncommon without a virus threat. Tube as busy as ever, and my carriage heading back up to Yorkshire on 17.03 ex Kings Cross is around 80% ,full with no masks. I am outbound in theory to Houston next week so will be intresting to see how the " cousins" are faring by then. I am supposed to be on SQ from Manchester but that may change. My staff are still travelling though with obvious precautions, and only to certain projects, and only if critical to us or client. Have to say apart from a sub continent client all have been very understanding. We will see how long that pans out for over a longer period when project progress and program starts to be materially compromised.
Happy travels to one and all .
Ps lounges are quieter 🙂
Kind regards
Mr Mac
