Thank you Pprune
Stop abusing the OP.
If the check-in agent would ask you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
If the security organisation at the gate performing the docs check asks you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
The checks have specified tasks. Currency control is not one of them.
That's the responsibility of Customs at destination
If the check-in agent would ask you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
If the security organisation at the gate performing the docs check asks you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
The checks have specified tasks. Currency control is not one of them.
That's the responsibility of Customs at destination
Stop abusing the OP.
If the check-in agent would ask you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
If the security organisation at the gate performing the docs check asks you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
The checks have specified tasks. Currency control is not one of them.
That's the responsibility of Customs at destination
If the check-in agent would ask you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
If the security organisation at the gate performing the docs check asks you how much money you're carrying, what would be your answer?
The checks have specified tasks. Currency control is not one of them.
That's the responsibility of Customs at destination
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On a flight a week ago and unusually for me I was taking liquids, most time buy when I arrive and dispose of what not needed when leaving.
On this occasion the plastic bag i had them in I was told wasn't sufficient, it was clear and I tied a knot in it, said I must buy the airport ones otherwise he would bin the items.
I asked for a copy of regs stating size of bag and must be airport specific, he put bag through then opened it, got a bag he deemed acceptable, asked me to transfer to it, seal it and then put it through again...............
On this occasion the plastic bag i had them in I was told wasn't sufficient, it was clear and I tied a knot in it, said I must buy the airport ones otherwise he would bin the items.
I asked for a copy of regs stating size of bag and must be airport specific, he put bag through then opened it, got a bag he deemed acceptable, asked me to transfer to it, seal it and then put it through again...............
Perhaps it has something to do with being a grumpy old man, but bravo to the OP.
It matters not whether it's security , the UKBA, your telecoms provider or a supermarket. When little Hitler's try and overstep the mark occasionally you should stand your ground. They generally, but not always, capitulate.
It matters not whether it's security , the UKBA, your telecoms provider or a supermarket. When little Hitler's try and overstep the mark occasionally you should stand your ground. They generally, but not always, capitulate.
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UK airport security does very little to ensure our safety. They merely make our lives more difficult and heighten the barriers those intend to do us harm have to overcome. But they do NOT guarantee any level of security. Just and increased level of something. And an expensive one at that. Our next attack will come from yet another thing we did not think of before the event, as will the one after that. My money is still on the terrorists. Unlike us, they don't have to follow the rules and have the luxury of trying to outwit people with below average intelligence and very low levels of aspiration.
We are doomed!
We are doomed!
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Very true Piltdown Man. It is impossible to guarantee 100% security. Even today there are still many major airports which are wide open to an attack by a determined and well organised terrorist group. Most of the security we see may deter the average nutter but not the determined and suicidal terrorists.
Airport "security" as in the pax-harrassment business is purely an empty theatrical statement that politicians are doing "everything humanly possible" to prevent an atrocity.
They know damn well that nothing short of positive profiling can have much impact at the point of boarding but they haven't the cojones to implement that so this will do as a slope shoulders exercise when the inevitable happens. Anyway, positive profiling would risk destabilising the entire "security" system itself in many airports, wouldn't it?
So they'll just walk away saying, "Well we did our best". and "It wasn't our fault." We can only hope that the competent anti terr authorities - ie GCHQ manage to beat the ex jobcentre harassment mafia into catching those that might otherwise be allowed to slip through...
The bereaved and the dead may disagree but the politicos will be nicely teflon coated.
They know damn well that nothing short of positive profiling can have much impact at the point of boarding but they haven't the cojones to implement that so this will do as a slope shoulders exercise when the inevitable happens. Anyway, positive profiling would risk destabilising the entire "security" system itself in many airports, wouldn't it?
So they'll just walk away saying, "Well we did our best". and "It wasn't our fault." We can only hope that the competent anti terr authorities - ie GCHQ manage to beat the ex jobcentre harassment mafia into catching those that might otherwise be allowed to slip through...
The bereaved and the dead may disagree but the politicos will be nicely teflon coated.
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Had an experience a few years ago, after I'd forgotten to take something or other out of my case. Security happened across the envelope with nearly £10,000 in, which I was using to buy a car in a couple of days time.
It got put to one side, and a nod to Special Branch (I was flying out to Northern Ireland). We had a chat about the car, a brief look at the limited paperwork, and was congratulated on my choice and the deal.
No problem really.
It got put to one side, and a nod to Special Branch (I was flying out to Northern Ireland). We had a chat about the car, a brief look at the limited paperwork, and was congratulated on my choice and the deal.
No problem really.
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Wage slave, agree except for "nothing short of positive profiling". That too can be easily got around, perhaps by dressing up W. European passport holders with light skin in suits, or tight skirts and showing cleavage.
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While I agree that the amount cash one is carrying should be of no concern to the security checker, I think people are mistaken if they believe that it should be immune from having to go through the x-ray. At many airports, in the US certainly, the standard screening device for persons is a body scanner, not a metal-detecting arch. Going through the body scanner requires that everything be out of your pockets, including things like plastic combs, let alone wallets.
Thus, at these body scanners, you are required to put everything that you are carrying through the X-ray. This idea that you are entitled to get a receipt for your cash before putting it through the X-ray is impossible. Unfortunately, you just need to be trustful and observant, otherwise the entire system breaks down. And why should cash be any different from jewelry or other valuables? They often need to go through the X-ray, and nobody gives you a receipt for them. Rant over.
Thus, at these body scanners, you are required to put everything that you are carrying through the X-ray. This idea that you are entitled to get a receipt for your cash before putting it through the X-ray is impossible. Unfortunately, you just need to be trustful and observant, otherwise the entire system breaks down. And why should cash be any different from jewelry or other valuables? They often need to go through the X-ray, and nobody gives you a receipt for them. Rant over.
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departing Houston Tx in 2010 my ANR earphones and a Nintendo DS3 "disappeared" from my carry on as it passed thru the security scanner, not noticed until we were airborne and went to get them out of the case. Mentioned it to cabin crew who were not at all surprised, "oh thats Houston for you". Now I don't remove my case from the belt until I've checked the contents, have to sometimes resist the "come on shift yr case" calls.
departing Houston Tx in 2010 my ANR earphones and a Nintendo DS3 "disappeared" from my carry on as it passed thru the security scanner, not noticed until we were airborne and went to get them out of the case. Mentioned it to cabin crew who were not at all surprised, "oh thats Houston for you". Now I don't remove my case from the belt until I've checked the contents, have to sometimes resist the "come on shift yr case" calls.
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KB: I fully agree that you need to be vigilant. I try to stay with my case and not let it go into the x-ray until I am next in line for my person to be scanned. And I try to keep my eyes on the x-ray machine as I go through my personal scan.
So far, I have kept all my things. But as your cabin crew suggested, not-so-petty theft happens. I'm sure my surveillance actions also slow down the line a bit, but I am going to still keep doing them. The point of my original post was simply that the idea of a property inventory and receipt both going in and coming out of the x-ray is unworkable.
Note that theft also happens from checked baggage, too. We can only try to minimize baggage or security line theft by vigilance, avoiding traveling with stuff that is real expensive, and have insurance.
So far, I have kept all my things. But as your cabin crew suggested, not-so-petty theft happens. I'm sure my surveillance actions also slow down the line a bit, but I am going to still keep doing them. The point of my original post was simply that the idea of a property inventory and receipt both going in and coming out of the x-ray is unworkable.
Note that theft also happens from checked baggage, too. We can only try to minimize baggage or security line theft by vigilance, avoiding traveling with stuff that is real expensive, and have insurance.
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Security Vienna
Passing through security at Vienna yesterday. Perfectly nice people, but I have a lot of "contrabrand" to put in their trays.
They kept on putting them through the scanner before I had
finished unloaded, and then urging me on. So I was scanned a total of 4 times to the extent that they got fed up with it and sent
me on my way. To save face they found, and accurately measured my little (and legal) corkscrew. Not convinced security
is done in the best way. Still at least Vienna people are friendly
and polite.
They kept on putting them through the scanner before I had
finished unloaded, and then urging me on. So I was scanned a total of 4 times to the extent that they got fed up with it and sent
me on my way. To save face they found, and accurately measured my little (and legal) corkscrew. Not convinced security
is done in the best way. Still at least Vienna people are friendly
and polite.
Paxing All Over The World
The best thing I took through in a hand case was an electric stapler. I had purchased it in Munich on a whilm (it was very expensive and did not last that long) [but was fun]. The stern security men at MUC soon smiled when I dug it out and asked me where I had bought it so that he could get one.
Security at Kerkyra (Corfu)
Stupid staff not allowed to think and enjoying seeing long lines. They only allow one pax at a time to empty his/her pockets at the container provided instead of handing out those trays to the first few pax. When I suggested them to do so their reaction is a mix of ignorance and contempt. Fortunately the main Greek airports are to be run by Fraport hence there are some hope from serious improvements.
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What every Security needs is a much bigger post-screen area where people can repack their lap tops, iPads, and plastic bags; put on their belts and braces, necklaces and watches; put on their shoes and knickers; etc. GVA used to have one, but no longer. Confusion with a lot of people standing around and getting into each other's way.
Just give us a table or two and a few chairs. Please? Thank you!
Just give us a table or two and a few chairs. Please? Thank you!