BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions V
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Thursday 12th May 2011 - 11.30am
ALL UNITE MEMBERS WELCOME
This meeting will be to give you a FULL update on where we have reached in talks with British Airways as they reach their conclusion.
It is important that all available members attend. Spread the word!
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ALL UNITE MEMBERS WELCOME
This meeting will be to give you a FULL update on where we have reached in talks with British Airways as they reach their conclusion.
It is important that all available members attend. Spread the word!
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Jurys Inn Heathrow Hotel, East Perimeter Rd
Hatton Cross
Heathrow, TW6 2SQ
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Where: Bedfont FC, The Orchard, Hatton Road, Bedfont, Middlesex TW14 8QT
When: Thursday 12 May 2011, 12.00pm
When: Thursday 12 May 2011, 12.00pm
Thursday 12th May 2011 - 11.30am
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Jurys Inn Heathrow Hotel, East Perimeter Rd
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Heathrow, TW6 2SQ
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Particularly so as the first one states "ALL Unite Members welcome.
If so Litebulbs, then I would think (and hope) that this sorry saga will indeed be over. However I haven't seen any such postings.
Has anyone posted a link to positive words from BASSA? The last SWP update posted on the other thread seems pretty adamant that no settlement without immediate reinstatement of those dismissed, return to previous crewing levels, and disbandment of MF will be acceptable.
All will be revealed tomorrow no doubt.
Has anyone posted a link to positive words from BASSA? The last SWP update posted on the other thread seems pretty adamant that no settlement without immediate reinstatement of those dismissed, return to previous crewing levels, and disbandment of MF will be acceptable.
All will be revealed tomorrow no doubt.
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confused....
I'm a little confused as to why Unite have called a meeting at a seperate location, half an hour before the BASSA meeting was scheduled.
Has the BASSA meeting now been cancelled, and is just the Unite one going ahead?
Or is this an attempt by Unite (and perhaps some BASSA reps?) to get the word out first and undermine the second meeting?
anyone have any idea?
The press releases sound good, but as has been mentioned a few posts up.... we have been here before....
Has the BASSA meeting now been cancelled, and is just the Unite one going ahead?
Or is this an attempt by Unite (and perhaps some BASSA reps?) to get the word out first and undermine the second meeting?
anyone have any idea?
The press releases sound good, but as has been mentioned a few posts up.... we have been here before....
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I'm a little confused as to why Unite have called a meeting at a seperate location, half an hour before the BASSA meeting was scheduled.
One is BASSA the other CC89.
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From the Beeb
BA strike: Airline and union agree to end dispute
Union members are expected to be balloted over the next month
The Unite union has said that British Airways has agreed to restore travel concessions as part of a deal to end long-running industrial action.
An agreement to end the dispute will also see some staff receive top-up payments written into their contracts.
Both issues were at the centre of the bitter dispute which has lasted for almost two years and involved 22 days of strikes.
The agreement will now be put to a ballot of about 10,000 union members.
In a statement Unite general secretary Len McCluskey said: "We always said that this dispute could only be settled by negotiation, not by confrontation or litigation. And so it has proved.
"I am particularly pleased that travel concessions will be restored," he said.
Union members are expected to be balloted over the next month
The Unite union has said that British Airways has agreed to restore travel concessions as part of a deal to end long-running industrial action.
An agreement to end the dispute will also see some staff receive top-up payments written into their contracts.
Both issues were at the centre of the bitter dispute which has lasted for almost two years and involved 22 days of strikes.
The agreement will now be put to a ballot of about 10,000 union members.
In a statement Unite general secretary Len McCluskey said: "We always said that this dispute could only be settled by negotiation, not by confrontation or litigation. And so it has proved.
"I am particularly pleased that travel concessions will be restored," he said.
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And from Sky
BA has agreed a deal with staff to end a two-year dispute that prompted a series of crippling strikes.
As Sky News revealed last night, members of Unite are meeting near Heathrow airport to hear details of the proposed deal and decide whether it should go out to a ballot to finally end the row.
The union describes it as an "honourable agreement" which will lead to the return of travel perks to cabin crew - removed by then-BA chief executive, Willie Walsh at the height of his row with Unite.
It is understood that progress has also been made on the other main sticking point covering disciplinary action against dozens of Unite members.
The proposed deal will cover too the issue of time off for union reps as well as the ability of Unite to represent staff working on BA's so-called new fleet.
Pay is also expected to be covered by the proposed agreement, which will be explained to today's mass meeting by Unite's general secretary Len McCluskey.
Any ballot will start within the next few weeks, with the result likely in July, ending any fears of further disruption to BA flights this summer.
It is understood that union officials will recommend the deal to cabin crew, who will then have to decide if they want a ballot or if it should be rejected, which would raise the prospect of more industrial action.
However, hopes are high that the dispute, the longest and most bitter in the transport industry for years, is close to being resolved.
The row started in February 2009 over cost-cutting but developed into a fallout over travel concessions taken away from union members who went on strike.
Members of Unite staged 22 days of strikes last year which cost BA over £150m and threats of further walkouts soured industrial relations at the airline.
Travel concessions were removed from those who took industrial action and there were a number of disciplinary cases taken against Unite members.
The two sides came close to a deal last year, but peace hopes collapsed, leaving the dispute deadlocked.
BA's former chief executive, Willie Walsh, moved on to head the airline's merger with Spanish carrier Iberia, and Unite elected Mr McCluskey to succeed former joint general secretaries Tony Woodley and Derek Simpson.
The change in leaderships gave a fresh impetus to moves to resolve the row, leading to new talks in recent weeks.
Unite members voted recently to stage more strikes, but the union held back from naming dates in a sign that progress could be made.
Around 7,000 Unite members were affected by the removal of travel concessions, an issue at the top of the union's agenda for resolving the dispute.
As Sky News revealed last night, members of Unite are meeting near Heathrow airport to hear details of the proposed deal and decide whether it should go out to a ballot to finally end the row.
The union describes it as an "honourable agreement" which will lead to the return of travel perks to cabin crew - removed by then-BA chief executive, Willie Walsh at the height of his row with Unite.
It is understood that progress has also been made on the other main sticking point covering disciplinary action against dozens of Unite members.
The proposed deal will cover too the issue of time off for union reps as well as the ability of Unite to represent staff working on BA's so-called new fleet.
Pay is also expected to be covered by the proposed agreement, which will be explained to today's mass meeting by Unite's general secretary Len McCluskey.
Any ballot will start within the next few weeks, with the result likely in July, ending any fears of further disruption to BA flights this summer.
It is understood that union officials will recommend the deal to cabin crew, who will then have to decide if they want a ballot or if it should be rejected, which would raise the prospect of more industrial action.
However, hopes are high that the dispute, the longest and most bitter in the transport industry for years, is close to being resolved.
The row started in February 2009 over cost-cutting but developed into a fallout over travel concessions taken away from union members who went on strike.
Members of Unite staged 22 days of strikes last year which cost BA over £150m and threats of further walkouts soured industrial relations at the airline.
Travel concessions were removed from those who took industrial action and there were a number of disciplinary cases taken against Unite members.
The two sides came close to a deal last year, but peace hopes collapsed, leaving the dispute deadlocked.
BA's former chief executive, Willie Walsh, moved on to head the airline's merger with Spanish carrier Iberia, and Unite elected Mr McCluskey to succeed former joint general secretaries Tony Woodley and Derek Simpson.
The change in leaderships gave a fresh impetus to moves to resolve the row, leading to new talks in recent weeks.
Unite members voted recently to stage more strikes, but the union held back from naming dates in a sign that progress could be made.
Around 7,000 Unite members were affected by the removal of travel concessions, an issue at the top of the union's agenda for resolving the dispute.
I'm sure that someone out there will be able to inform us what the strikers have received out of their strikes?? Where, exactly, is the positive benefit for strikers?
Has the "imposition" been removed? Are flights still departing 1 CC member down?
Meanwhile, what exactly have BA not got from this strike? I suspect the BA management feel a bit like Arsenal's "unbeatables", winning the league without losing a game.
Has the "imposition" been removed? Are flights still departing 1 CC member down?
Meanwhile, what exactly have BA not got from this strike? I suspect the BA management feel a bit like Arsenal's "unbeatables", winning the league without losing a game.
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Meanwhile, what exactly have BA not got from this strike? I suspect the BA management feel a bit like Arsenal's "unbeatables", winning the league without losing a game.
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Now that the details are coming through BA has not given way easily:
Staff travel will only be returned in full when new working relationships between BA and Unite are fully implemented. BASSA and CC89 will cease to be two independent branches.
Independent review of disciplinaries is only for uncompleted cases
Any further pay rises above previous offers have to be met by productivity savings.
Staff travel will only be returned in full when new working relationships between BA and Unite are fully implemented. BASSA and CC89 will cease to be two independent branches.
Independent review of disciplinaries is only for uncompleted cases
Any further pay rises above previous offers have to be met by productivity savings.
Dear colleagues
I am pleased to announce that a settlement has been agreed with Unite in
the long-running dispute over cabin crew issues. Unite will recommend
acceptance of the deal in a ballot of members over the coming weeks.
I welcome the fact that at last we have reached a point where we can put
this dispute behind us.
I want to pay tribute to colleagues at all levels of the company whose
determination and hard work over the last 18 months did so much to create
the conditions for the settlement that has become possible in recent weeks.
This has been a remarkable team effort.
Our agreement with Unite involves acknowledgement by the union that the
structural changes we have made in crew operations are permanent. The
changes in numbers of onboard crew will remain, and the recruitment of new
crew at Heathrow on different terms and conditions will continue.
Unite has also acknowledged that we need to modernise the way we work with
each other. So we have agreed changes to our internal procedures that are
better suited to our highly competitive, customer-focused industry while
ensuring that workplace issues can be raised promptly and effectively.
Once these new working relationships are fully implemented, I will
recommend to the Board the full restoration of staff travel concessions to
crew who went on strike last year.
We have given assurances to address concerns on earnings and lifestyle
associated with the introduction of new crew, and there will be an external
review process for uncompleted disciplinary cases arising from the dispute.
In line with previous offers, crew will receive pay rises of up to 2.9 per
cent this year and up to 3.0 per cent next year. Further rises of 1.1 per
cent this year and 0.5 per cent next year are available, subject to
equivalent additional productivity savings.
We all have enormous admiration for the professionalism and skills of
British Airways cabin crew. Together we have a great future in serving our
customers and making this airline the envy of our competitors. It is time
for us all to move forward.
Keith Williams
Chief Executive
I am pleased to announce that a settlement has been agreed with Unite in
the long-running dispute over cabin crew issues. Unite will recommend
acceptance of the deal in a ballot of members over the coming weeks.
I welcome the fact that at last we have reached a point where we can put
this dispute behind us.
I want to pay tribute to colleagues at all levels of the company whose
determination and hard work over the last 18 months did so much to create
the conditions for the settlement that has become possible in recent weeks.
This has been a remarkable team effort.
Our agreement with Unite involves acknowledgement by the union that the
structural changes we have made in crew operations are permanent. The
changes in numbers of onboard crew will remain, and the recruitment of new
crew at Heathrow on different terms and conditions will continue.
Unite has also acknowledged that we need to modernise the way we work with
each other. So we have agreed changes to our internal procedures that are
better suited to our highly competitive, customer-focused industry while
ensuring that workplace issues can be raised promptly and effectively.
Once these new working relationships are fully implemented, I will
recommend to the Board the full restoration of staff travel concessions to
crew who went on strike last year.
We have given assurances to address concerns on earnings and lifestyle
associated with the introduction of new crew, and there will be an external
review process for uncompleted disciplinary cases arising from the dispute.
In line with previous offers, crew will receive pay rises of up to 2.9 per
cent this year and up to 3.0 per cent next year. Further rises of 1.1 per
cent this year and 0.5 per cent next year are available, subject to
equivalent additional productivity savings.
We all have enormous admiration for the professionalism and skills of
British Airways cabin crew. Together we have a great future in serving our
customers and making this airline the envy of our competitors. It is time
for us all to move forward.
Keith Williams
Chief Executive
This new Union bloke isn't much of a negotiator, is he?
The Untie bloke at Astra Zeneca negotiated for the full return of lost pay after the staff in Macclesfield went on strike.
On another point, the BBC are reporting this in their Business news. Shouldn't it be in the Sport news? A 10 - 0 win to BA??
ChicoG - thank you for the correction. That sounds better.
The Untie bloke at Astra Zeneca negotiated for the full return of lost pay after the staff in Macclesfield went on strike.
On another point, the BBC are reporting this in their Business news. Shouldn't it be in the Sport news? A 10 - 0 win to BA??
ChicoG - thank you for the correction. That sounds better.