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BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions IV

Old 13th Feb 2011, 16:01
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Originally Posted by Juan Tugoh View Post
So what did he say?
Usual old tosh I'm afraid!

Wicked Willy, Bullying Management, Innocent BASSA, Were not militant (hahahahaha), We're trying to negotiate but BA wont, agreements will all be torn up, cabin crew are paupers, blah blah blah.......

LBC podcast these shows so it will be available to listen to.
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 16:06
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Name & Registered Office:

BASSA LIMITED
130 BOURNEMOUTH ROAD
CHANDLERS FORD EASTLEIGH
EASTLEIGH
HANTS
ENGLAND
SO53 3AL
Company No. 07492282

Registered address

Edit: A step TOO far.

Accounts not due until 13th October 2012
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 16:16
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A check at Companies House should confirm who the Directors are, its share capital etc.
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 16:55
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Juan Tugoh

So what did he say?
I missed his words of wisdom but summing up at the end of the show, Simon Calder did say that DH promised BA's customers six months of disruption. And that is before they have even held the next ballot!
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 17:04
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Awwww ... poor DH. There's nobody as unhappy as a scorned and derided militant activist.

Hipennine ... an interesting point.
However, I would guess that falls into the same 'NFI' box as holding elections, publishing accounts and running credible ballots.
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 17:22
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Angel

Well I know that even strikers don't want a further 6 months of this rubbish, so more and more will, I am sure, leave the union.

DH runs the risk of BA derecognising Bassa if he's is not careful and then nothing he says will matter anymore.
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 18:11
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I missed his words of wisdom but summing up at the end of the show, Simon Calder did say that DH promised BA's customers six months of disruption. And that is before they have even held the next ballot!
If by that DH means the oft-claimed "guerilla tactics", it's about time that they got on with it. DH first threatened no less than a year of "guerilla tactics" in May last year!

BA faces 'guerrilla campaign' as it bids to halt strike because of 'illegal' tweet - Telegraph
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 18:21
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A check at Companies House should confirm who the Directors are, its share capital etc.
Companies House records show that Bassa Limited has been incorporated by a Polish gentleman named Mr Janusz Rozycki.

name means nothing to me.. perhaps someone else!?
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 18:34
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Are people sure BASSA Ltd is actually connected to BASSA, the branch of Unite? Perhaps it is just an unconnected business that shares the same name?
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 20:53
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I'm bemused that DH thinks he can call up 6 months of industrial action. I thought that the limit on strikes was 12 weeks. Does that mean he intends to hold not one, but two further ballots ? How many of the 'faithful' does he think will follow him ? The sooner that the Unite leadership do the kind thing and sack him, the better it will be for al concerned. Is there any way that they can ditch him on the grounds of failing to keep membership records up to date ?
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 20:54
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Unite and not BASSA made the mistake

BA argued to the Electoral Reform Services body, which oversaw the ballot, that Unite was breaching the Trade Union Act Labour Relations (Consolidation) 1992 by launching a ballot whose purpose was "unclear".
A BA spokesman urged the union to return to a peace deal hammered out last year that was rejected by Unite's branches: "There have been enough ballots. It is time for Unite to return to the deal we negotiated, which leaves our existing Heathrow crew the best rewarded in the UK industry, and to put this dispute behind us."
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 21:46
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? What is the purpose of
5. The introduction of mixed fleet on different terms and conditions without the agreement of the trade union.
How can the purpose be achieved?
How could BA respond in a way that would meet this item 100%? - or 90% - or 37%?
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 21:55
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Interesting opinion from FT

Re: Current court hearing envolving Previous ballot

For us pax this probably means no strike ballot until after that hearing is concluded and a judgment given.

Reason being...why would Unite want to mount another ballot while the former strike may be in the process of being declared illegal, the 5000 strikers under threat of being dismissed as a result and legal damages possibly coming BASSA's way?
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 22:42
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LD12986

Are people sure BASSA Ltd is actually connected to BASSA, the branch of Unite? Perhaps it is just an unconnected business that shares the same name?
Well lets put it this way. The address given where it was registered is Eastleigh , just a few miles from DH's home. Coincidence. I think not.

Someone on here, sorry I don't have the time or the brains, needs to look at this in detail. Wouldn't surprise me if this isn't fishy. Lets be honest, NOBODY has set eyes on Bassa's accounts for years and my God lots of us have tried
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 23:30
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Angel

Maybe BA think the same way as the FT and the cost of this case is worth it in terms of preventing further strikes for the foreseeable future.

I think BA may make the agreement available again for non union members to sign and every time more and more people sign it and leave Bassa, it makes Bassa weaker and weaker. (Actually having no union would not be good for us crew, so DH has got so much to answer for, he really has).

The other thing BA could do is just issue us all new contracts similar to the agreement and give us 90 days to sign and part of me wouldn't mind because I have just had enough of all of this. I know it is interesting for all of you but living through it, day in and day out, at work is just getting so hard and it's so stressful.
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Old 14th Feb 2011, 04:04
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New Companies .............

When you want to set up a company, the most effective/economical route is to go to a company like "Jordans" that specilises in offering 'off the shelf' companies. They continually set up new private limited companies with nonsense names, one director and one share issued, the articles of memorandum (or principal areas of activity) are as broad as possible, i.e. import, export, design, manufacture, production, agents ..... and so on.

They will check that the name you want is not used, change the name, have the single shareholder/director resign (company employee), issue a new single share in your nominees name and list them as director and company secretary if you wish (although CS is no longer mandatory).

All of this has cost you around say 350. They will also provide more services if you wish, 1st Years board minutes, change of address, issue more shares, register shareholders, accounting date, etc., a lot of this information would not have to be established or registered that quickly, so say you have around a year minimum to play with, before any of this structure need be established and registered. Again cost of this is peanuts - few hundreds.

You now have your hollow shell, you could now establish your main market drives, providing a services for your marketplace, maybe offering to be responsible for the storing, preserving, and accounting for, all records past, present and future, including accounting and board/organisation minutes, be responsible for the dissemination of information regarding same where it is a mandatory legal requirement. In that instance you would need to offer some safeguards, even a disaster recovery plan, to provide a fallback if your company failed. One would assume that all records would be transferred to electronic records for security and paper records destroyed due to the bulk storage otherwise needed.

So there you go ...... All ready for the bright new world with your new marketing concept!! and you still need to appoint an accountant and open a bank acount!.

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Old 14th Feb 2011, 08:02
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More ramblings from Duncan

You no longer need actual strikes to pressure the company - ballots can have the same effect, since they carry the threat of strikes. It would now appear that a simple, well-placed cross on the ballot paper removes some of the need to actually lose money and stand on picket lines.
DH seems to be rapidly losing touch with reality if he really believes in what he's written on the CC thread. He is definitely running out of ideas on how to successfully pursue the dispute.
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Old 14th Feb 2011, 08:10
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I must call you to task. As one in the US that followed a union leader (Poli, PATCO) into a total destruction of our union and now has realized that everything I did was doomed to failure. How can you say that DH should have any respect from his union members just because he is the GS of his branch?

It is obvious to anyone that has been following this dispute that he is feeding his ego on the backs of his union members. Why is he still allowed to run a company union when he is no longer an employee of that company.

I have been lurking on this thread for almost a year now and cannot see how a person that has put forward many posts that are pro union can support a person like this.

Please tell me why you think he is worth any respect at all.
I ask this of you because I respect your posts are from the heart.
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Old 14th Feb 2011, 08:22
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McoFlyer,

I agree with what you typed but I did find it very hard to read!!!!!!
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Old 14th Feb 2011, 08:24
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Ottergirl and Betty Girl

I want to commend you for being the best your airline can muster. After reading your posts for the last year you have touched my heart with your passion for your job. I hope this works out well for all of you that support BA. I worked for AA many years ago and understand how difficult your job can be.

I really enjoyed my flights on BA and can understand why customers like Diplome, Baggersup, and the rest still fly with you regardless of the antics of BASSA/CC89.

Keep up the good work! I will certainly fly on BA when the opportunity arises. The three trips I have taken to the UK on BA have been great.

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