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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 08:01
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Therefore, as the commuters place of work is UK, its UK income and they should pay tax on it.
see my previous.....There can be a tax advantage in commuting from overseas.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 08:40
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A summation usually has the advantage of an argument or a proof that has gone before it. I thank you harrypic, for providing the latter to my former before that itself were writ.
Both the threads running here in Pprune on the problems British Airways are encountering with certain of it's more intransigent employees reflect an apparent prediliction with tortious and sometimes even illogical argument. It seems obvious enough that certain of those who correspond here are perhaps, just a trifle, out of touch with certain aspects of corporate and financial reality. International tax mitigation is an extremely complex subject and its numerous booby traps have proved disastrous for many in the past, (q.v. my previous case histories as quoted and in particular Gaines-Cooper.)
Those who wish to ensure that they do not fall foul of some regulatory tax authority in the future or in retrospect would do well to heed my words and, as I have said before, ensure that they seek professional advice specific to their own particular case rather than relying on random pieces of information or conjecture addressed to the world at large and presumably read by many whose economic experience and knowledge ill befits them for a cogent analysis of the facts of their matters.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 08:45
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Following on from the tax case of the BA pilot Shepherd, it is not so easy for UK national pilots and cabin crew to claim a non-residence status even where flying time outside the UK remains within the 90 day average and 182 day annual UK visit limitations.
It will be necessary to demonstrate that you have made a permanent move with your family to another country and settled there, to have a chance of your claim succeeding. Local taxation advice should also be taken in that country.
Source: - A UK Tax Service For Non-Resident Landlords,Pilots,Aircrew,Seafarers,Non-Doms - Pilots Aircrew & Tax

My partner and I looked into this a few years back as I have a home in Spain from where we could have been resident. The downside, for me, was that I quite like the UK and the restrictions on the amount of time my partner would have been able to spend in the Uk put us off.

It's not all about money after all.. For us anyway

There are advantages to tax reduction and if you are really interested in the details, which are complex, I'm sure you could call the number at link and they would be happy to explain all.

More reading:-

http://www.taxationweb.co.uk/tax-articles/general/residence-pilot-error.html
http://www.adviserbreakthrough.co.uk/ifanews/article/82.php
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 10:42
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Po-Faced CSD's

As a frequent long-haul passenger (LHR-Houston), I am constantly amazed at the terrible attitude of some CSD's.

They barely manage to crack a smile and I always wonder why they are doing a job they appear to detest.

The 'good' ones stand out a mile but are few and far between. They are the ones that stick in my mind, however.

Time to get rid of these sour-faced members of staff.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 12:11
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Couple of points.
1. The poster on the other thread is the Champagne Charlies' current nominated poster. They seem to rotate them

2. As customers, maybe we need PCCC to form a pax union for us, (and the folk on flyertalk) so we can put our demands to WW?? Like - no "Heritage" crew on my flights, thank you very much!!
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 12:21
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Perks of the Job

We now find that the Jo’burg Jetsetter owns a farm.
One wonders whether her farm workers and domestic staff enjoy:

Subsidised travel to and from their workplace
Free meals and drinks whilst at work
Free medical care
Paid sick leave
Maternity leave
90% discount on their employers’ products
Wages that are above the local average
Automatic annual pay increments
Free or subsidised pension plan
Generous rest periods during their shifts
Comfortable bunks for rest
And, last but not least – Union representation

I think we should be told.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 12:55
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Who is Ava Hannah ?

First post by 'her' that I can find is 26th June. Odd the silence before that. Not sure if the release of all the personal details is the result of a disarming openess or a desire to brag. Sits oddly with the previous silence and is hardly calculated to gain sympathy for financial plight.

Incidentally, how do the moderators know that someone really is cabin crew ?
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 13:17
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I see the pprune poster investigation team is swinging into action again. I am sure the insult committee is getting ready too.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 13:42
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Litebulb:

I am sure the insult committee is getting ready too.
A tad on the rude side.

I agree that the moderators seem to do a pretty good job of finding out who is truly personnel and who are not so much conjecture is rather pointless but your statement regarding an "insult committee" is a bit overwrought.

Debating the statements of an individual poster is hardly an "insult" unless you are of the same mind that being told "No" is being "bullied".
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 14:10
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Originally Posted by Diplome
A tad on the rude side.
Not at all. I note that you did not comment about AO's post and the Champagne Charlie reference. Or is it OK to be rude, as long as it agrees with your position?
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 14:22
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It is not my obligation to comment or correct any and all posts when I don't concur 100% with the content. In fact it would be very inappropriate of me to do so.

...and the fact that I have no idea who or what a "Champagne Charlie" is would have made it even more inappropriate in this instance.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 14:59
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So we agree then.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 15:14
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Litebulb:

I make it a rule that I don't engage in passive-agressive circular debates.

At the moment the only thing I'm aware of that we agree upon in our previous exchange is that I need to google the definition for "Champagne Charlie".
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 15:32
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It's lucky this is not one of those debates then. You not seeing the agreement answers my point.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 15:54
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No need to blow a filament Litebulbs

Insult to whom exactly ? Given the heat the new poster is generating elsewhere, I thought it relevant - and curious. There has been speculation about 'Miss M' being one and the same person. Anyway, how do you join this insult committee - is there a fee - looks like I have been nominated.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 16:06
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MissM/Ava Hannah

A suggestion on the other thread by SQC7791 that posts from MissM and Ava Hannah are the work of a committee could have some credibility, therefore I'll risk the wrath of Mods with this offering.
MissM is accredited with 294 posts on PPRuNe, her last being No.161 on the 21June when she denied being Lizanne Malone. 294 posts since Dec 09 is a considerable output particularly when taking flying duties into consideration.
Ava Hannah pops up on 26June all guns blazing because despite repeated warnings she struck and lost her ST. Living in JNB from choice as she does is no doubt an inconvenience but as she would not accept an offer of all the money in the world unless ST was given back one wonders what her priorities really are. Seemingly it's ST.
After post 462, Ava's third in which she mentions the loss of her son to leukaemia there is a change of font. Easily explained of course, a new PC perhaps or a new author. Thereafter her output on the other thread gains pace and currently stands at 34 posts in 4 days.
It's safe to assume that most, if not all contributors here follow the other thread and draw their own conclusions. There are inconsistencies, she works 50% and goes to the UK every 28 days or she goes to work 4 -5 times per month. One seems to contradict the other and if money is not the issue why is she bleating about paying £500 for a ticket to LHR when through her own decision forfeited her right to ST.
I may be completely wrong and if so apologise, but the similarities in syntax and style suggests to me that MissM and Ava Hanna and posts attributed to them is the work of one person.......or a committee!
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 16:15
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It is a constant theme on pprune, that whenever a poster comments against the majority, they are examined for who they are, rather than the content of their post. If you feel insults serve a purpose, then insult away.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 16:35
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But interrogation bordering on the vituperative can be just one of the more entertaining facets of Pprune hazing. In this particular case though, the question becomes rather more one of collectivity rather than individualism. It seems to me that certain people are trying to establish whether they as individuals are corresponding with individuals or whether they are merrily scribbling away with representatives of the Bassa wrecking commitee. Under the present circumstances of intellectual argument, it's a neat distinction of no great significance.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 16:40
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Ava herself defined strikers as "Heritage" crew, I believe.
Champagne Charlies are those with a champagne lifestyle. I am unwaged, so do not have a champagne lifestyle. (Not as often as I would like).
I would love to afford to drive to BFC in a drophead BMW and drink lots of pimms with the strikers, and give a customer point of view. However, the price appears to be to join either the cult, or Socialist Worker. By the look of it, and a drop head BMW would be handy aswell. I can't afford one of them.
I have no desire to either join the cult, or to join Socialist Worker. The millionaires that run Socialist Worker strike me as the worst sort of two-faced so and sos.
Is calling the cult "Champagne Charlies" an insult? If it is, it is far less insulting than the insults which bassa et al give out to customers, - and as to what they say about BA management, I need say nothing, as they say it all.
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 17:01
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Where has this cult term come from?
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