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BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions II

Old 9th Sep 2010, 18:27
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I used to engage with CC on the other Thread ... naughty me, I'm not employed by an airline. I have lost count of how many temporary bans, and deleted accounts that resulted. I have very mixed views about the 'mixed democracy' on PPRuNe ... but on balance I guess I'd rather be able to discuss matters on this Thread with CC. After all, I help pay their wages, so we ought to be able to engage in discussions.
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 18:37
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Cabin crew should be welcomed on this thread - even though passengers are as popular as poison on "the other one".

Nevertheless, does all this dirty linen really have to be washed in public? It resembles all the grumbling and gossip emanating from behind the galley curtains.

There is a PM facility available, you know.
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 18:51
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Herro ... how are you?

You are absolutely right, as I would have expected. Do the battles by PM or on the CC thread, and talk nicely to the people who pay the wages in here!

Still, it's nice to be able to chat to the sensible CC, who tend to be the ones who come here. I will confess I got very tired trying to engage in debate with the 'brain dead' on the CC Thread
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 19:12
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Last one, I promise

BettyGirl, I wasn't having a go at you. I was just explaining what's going on at LGW. I can't help being protective of my base, and I wanted to explain it isn't just a bed of roses and sunshine.

For our lovely passengers, I apologise for the interruption. I'll go back to reading, unless I can answer a specific question or comment.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 02:27
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Are the improved striker/non-striker relations that JSL reports from Gatwick putting in an appearance at Heathrow? I have flown both shorthaul and longhaul with BA quite frequently in the last three or four months and have noticed that the working relationships between cabin crew, at least to the extent that they are visible to passengers, seem to be almost as good as ever. The general level of attention to and interaction with the SLF has been up there with the best in most cases, from both the relative youngsters and those of of less tender years. The only exception that I saw was a young lady in WT+ on a flight from IAD to LHR who seemed to be keeping herself to herself and presented a fairly sour face to her passengers. Perhaps she had personal concerns not directly connected to the job. However, whatever her reasons she did not override the good impression and very friendly service given by a young man and an older lady to two involuntary upgrades into Club World on the outward trip.

A little while ago on one of the threads, I think it was the employees only, there were suggestions that strikers were wearing their passes with the picture inwards as a recognition symbol. Last Sunday on the way out to the "B" gates at T5 I noticed a group of cabin crew chatting happily, one with an inward-turned pass and others with pictures showing on passes hanging from BA (definitely not BASSA) lanyards. Was this a sign of improving times?

On a different theme, I recall that shortly before the first strikes BA said that any EC member who had booked a journey that was affected by the strike and was transferred to another airline would be credited with the points and miles they would have earned if BA had carried them. The same applied if they decided that they alternatives were no good and took the option of getting there money back. That leaves very little reason for avoiding BA in the face of theats of further strikes. Since it is likely that a full longhaul programme will be flown that time (if indeed a strike happens) there is probably nothing to be gained in booking a fully refundable first class fare in the hope that BA will cancel the flight before you ask for your money back.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 07:18
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If true, he clearly thought that he was above the law but now it has caught up with him. Whatever happens he will almost certainly get a caution. The police will, of course, have the evidence and it remains to be seen what action they will take.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 07:25
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Dairyground,
It is very strange because I feel service on board my flights is good and attitude to pax is great, so I would not expect any passenger to see anything. However there is an atmosphere of being frightened to speak about the strike for fear of causing an upset. It is very strange because people know whats happening via websites but no one can talk about it at work, which causes a strange kind of stress always watching what you say. It is hard to explain.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 08:13
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Betty Girl

Are you still on? I want to post something that you need to read.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 08:48
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MCOflyer,
I am here.

Sorry have to go to work. Back about 7.30 tonight.
BG

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Old 10th Sep 2010, 10:56
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Quote - Flyertalk forum - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ussion-51.html

"Good Evening everybody. Obviously got to be a bit careful now what I write but I can confirm I had a polite phone call from Heathrow Police today asking me to attend - with a solicitor - an interview next Wednesday under "malicious communications and harassment allegations".

I am assuming this has something to do with a few e mails I have sent to strike breaking CSD Davey Green who took it upon himself to start a mocking thread on our forum and then reported some answers to BA which resulted in a good member being suspended.

My take on this? BA can't handle what I am saying so they are calling in the police. Let's hope the police at Heathrow are above being used for Tony McCarthy's political pawns.

I would like to rely on police integrity here but as someone has pointed out tonight there are many ex police now working for BA's asset protection. Quite scary."
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:04
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I would like to rely on police integrity here but as someone has pointed out tonight there are many ex police now working for BA's asset protection. Quite scary
Silly public comment. He doesnt know when to button it does he.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:21
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I suspect he sees himself as a martyr. Continuing to comment in such an astonishingly stupid way would fit with that.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:30
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Always thought to be a martyr one had to be dead!
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:36
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He will be, just like the rest of us.

However, the term is favoured by ardent Trades Union militants to make them sound significant.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:51
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Don't shoot the messenger

A Martyr is not a dead person._ A Martyr is a living person who knows that he will be put to death because of what he says._ The word Martyr originally meant bringing witness or bearing witness.
Martyr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 12:13
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Interesting statement by Mr. Holley.

Intruiging is his reference to emails he sent to Mr. Green and not his posted comments.

Mr. Holley then follows with:

I would like to rely on police integrity here but as someone has pointed out tonight there are many ex police now working for BA's asset protection. Quite scary."
There are former police officers working in many industries...providing fine and ethical service...and they belong to Unions. Why would Mr. Holley be disparaging police officers prior to the meeting?

Perhaps he realizes that he went too far and he is trying to do damage control for what he believes may happen.

Would love to read those emails
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 12:44
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Yes of course the police are in the pay of Walsh, just like the media and the judiciary.
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 12:50
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How long will it be before it is alleged that the SWP are also employed by BA?

Infamy, Infamy, they've all got it In for me!
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 14:05
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I'd like to see the original post that was so 'mocking' that one 'good member' CC has been suspended for the response and DH has got an appointment with Plod for emails sent that might constitute malicious communication or harassment. All no fault of their own you understand - it was so 'mocking' that they couldn't help themselves!

You simply couldn't make it up.

BA union threatens to widen cabin crew dispute | Business | guardian.co.uk

what are the chances of that?

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Old 10th Sep 2010, 14:46
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It does get a bit amusing to hear the descriptive phrases that BASSA uses to describe their "poor, downtrodden" members and the "evil bullies" that persecute them...

If Jeffrey Dahmer was a BASSA member I suspect he would be described in Newsletters as an "experimental chef".
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