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Old 27th Aug 2010, 08:31
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I suspect that after being found guilty of smuggling this gentleman will no longer be eligible for an airside pass and will, therefore have terminated his own employment.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 11:57
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The monologues from the junta, and the conduct of meetings might be influenced, as suggested by another poster earlier, by the phases of the moon, but I suspect that the results of Southampton FC are the real issue. (Diplome - translating for you, that's a lowly English soccer club).

They were pathetic last year, and this year they have only won one competitive game - against lowly Bournemouth.
Before the September gathering of the cult, Southampton are at home versus Rochdale. I guess if they lose that one, the fraternal gathering will not be a happy place.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 12:52
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By and large I suspect the management and a certain small %age of CC deserve each other but can this following quote from HotWings really be true

I see from the news that the latest BASSAmentalist tactic is to play the ditching PRA mid-flight and then blame the dozy "flight deck" for pushing the wrong button.
I assume that means terrifying a plane load of passengers in the middle of the night?. Just a word of caution, dont let me be on a plane when this happens
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 13:12
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'Brace for impact - we're about to crash' Terrified plane passengers hear crash warning by mistake | Mail Online
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 13:15
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Originally Posted by baggersup
How about a recreation of the Peterloo Massacre? Hey, whilst they are in Manchester....how can they miss an opportunity to be aligned with worker victims of such worth?
There have already been frequent comparisons between BASSA members and the Tolpuddle Martyrs on the crews own forums!

Originally Posted by manintheback
can this following quote from HotWings really be true
I don't think so. I believe it was fat finger syndrome as someone attempted to fix the IFE (and no, it wasn't the pilots as the Currant Bun is reporting).
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 13:39
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Reuters reported the inadvertant playing of the pre-recorded ditching tape whilst over the North Sea en route to HKG.
Not being ex-crew, I'm not sure who hit the wrong button but I can only hope this wasn't part of "you know who's" threatened guerilla tactics. That on top of wearing yellow in memory of the Airtours accident in Manchester 20 odd years ago would be too much to stomach.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 15:15
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I can categorically state that the Ditching Pre-Recorded Announcement cannot be triggered from the flight deck of a BA 747-400 and this was not triggered by a pilot as is being reported in the Sun and Mail. The PRA is a function that is controlled by the cabin crew along with all the other 'canned' announcements you hear on a BA jumbo. I very much doubt that this was a deliberate act, someone on the cabin crew of this service made an error, and is probably mortified by it.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 17:11
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Great Post from The Other Place...............

I enjoyed this post from the other place..........

"The BA CC strike WAS a success. No one "ruined" it for you and yet still you didn't get the result you wanted.

Over 7000 crew went on strike according to BASSA.
Only 26 crew turned up at CRC for the first wave according to BASSA.
Most of the departing flights were empty according to .....
Some aircraft were just doing circuits, according to.....
The whole operation was pretty much wrecked, according to.........

That looks like a pretty successful strike to me. "

I guess it just means that BA, BAA, the CAA and all those passengers from all over the world were lying, as BASSA always tells the truth.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 19:06
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The deranged Miss M has posted another missive to the nation over on the CC forum....there appears to be no point in replying to this "person" as they are so far away from reality probably only Mystic Meg would be able to contact them
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 19:18
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BA has never been in its fight for survival. We all know it was a trick played by our CEO to send us a message. Many voted for industrial action which indicates that there's something wrong yet not willing to make the sacrifices involved in going on strike but relying on the rest of us to do it for them.
Poor Miss_M. Completely detached from reality. A nice lady [we exchanged PMs some time ago] but with some form of mental block. Very sad.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 02:22
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This is probably a "cultural" post from me. In the CC Thread Miss M posted the following -
That's why we need a watertight agreement and a say about route transfers.
I am amazed that a relatively LOW LEVEL employee feels that they should be the "Manager of BA" and "decide the operations" of a company this size. What is it about the English culture that bottom end folks believe that THEY should have the FINAL say about "how" their company runs it's business? AMAZING ATTITUDE! ! !

Taking an isolated example, you say? NO - remember Mr Holley - who was fired because HE DECIDED that he would do Union business rather than the work he had been assigned by his employer.

Another isolated example as well you say?? NO - most ALL of the BASSA supporters at that time posted support for Mr Holley and demanded his TOTAL re-instatement. Simply amazing attitude by MANY people!
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 07:31
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MissM excels herself:

Don't you find it interesting that this is the first time ever in this company during a dispute where crew have actually been suspended or dismissed? That itself indicates what sort of management we are dealing with.
I don't find it interesting, I find it laudable. And it does indicate what sort of management BASSA are dealing with: one that isn't going to put up with any more of their crap.

As for:

See some of you on the 6th. I'm thinking of putting on yellow eyeshadow!
And wouldn't she just look as ridiculous as she sounds?

I'd love to see those photos.

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Old 28th Aug 2010, 08:03
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There have already been frequent comparisons between BASSA members and the Tolpuddle Martyrs on the crews own forums!
For them to compare indicates a complete ignorance of the Tolpuddle story. Shame, perhaps some research would give them something to reflect on....
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 08:35
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For any who don't know this is the self-funded action by crew who have lost ST to mount legal action to regain it.

Would anyone who reads/has insight into relevants forums help me with this ?

Since this action to retore ST is something that absolutely ought to be the responsibility of the union, could you tell me what crew are saying to their representatives about the fact that they - and not the union - are being forced to shell out to at least attempt to regain it ?

I would expect, logically, that they ought to be burying their reps under ordure fo doing nothing and saying nothing substantial. Is this the case ?

If yes, is it leading anyone to question the integrity of BASSA ?
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 09:19
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AS - Unite has claimed that it is to also litigate against the removal of ST, as well as the crew-funded case. Though, there has been no confirmation that anything has actually happened, only public statements of intention.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 09:48
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Miss M's throw away jovial comment about putting on yellow eye shadow shows either someone who either gives no proper thought to what they are writing before posting or someone who doesn't care that this meeting has been linked to a substantial loss of life

Given the events in the past these people have linked their dispute to (Iwo Jima etc) one really does have to wonder about the moral standards (if any)of the people concerned
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 10:49
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Despite my best efforts to get the union to acknowledge the fact that no one in my household are still members of the union resulting in ballot and newsletters like this still being received.
You can download the whole PDF via a button at the bottom of linked page.

This one is such a cracker I decided to share it with other non-members.!

We have everything this time, ABBA, Vietnam, George Patton, The Argentinean Missing, Psycho the movie and much much more….

But alas, little information of any sensible substance. Indeed it's quite terrible and Unite should know better, it's childish and unprofessional at best and a total disgrace at worst.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 12:07
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The contents of that PDF file = vile.

I wonder if the sacked crew in the picture were asked permission?

I can't say more, as I'll get banned from here for foul language.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 13:55
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What emotional, moronic claptrap in the newsletter. It still amazes me that BA ever recruited such people in the first place.

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Old 28th Aug 2010, 14:00
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Now comparing sacked crew to the missing in Argentina ????..I think my question wondering if these people from BASSA have any moral standards has been answered...clearly none what so ever
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