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I simply cannot understand why people still fly with this pathetic excuse for an airline.
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a) because it's very very cheap
b) because Ryanair operate over 50 flights a day to various destinations from my local airport, which is an hour's drive away, AND NO OTHER SCHEDULED AIRLINE FLIES THERE AT ALL.
Same applies to many European destinations. What's difficult to understand about "no other choice", then ?
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a) because it's very very cheap
b) because Ryanair operate over 50 flights a day to various destinations from my local airport, which is an hour's drive away, AND NO OTHER SCHEDULED AIRLINE FLIES THERE AT ALL.
Same applies to many European destinations. What's difficult to understand about "no other choice", then ?
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A short addition to my post above:
Ten years ago I wrote to two leading UK airlines pointing out how many expats lived within an hour of Girona airport, and suggesting that perhaps - oh, how naive I was ! - ONE flight a WEEK back to the UK might achieve no little success. I quoted some accurate figures.....
Neither airline replied to my letter.
Today, Ryanair has fifty times that number of flights every DAY out of Girona.
Draw your own conclusions about "business models".
Ten years ago I wrote to two leading UK airlines pointing out how many expats lived within an hour of Girona airport, and suggesting that perhaps - oh, how naive I was ! - ONE flight a WEEK back to the UK might achieve no little success. I quoted some accurate figures.....
Neither airline replied to my letter.
Today, Ryanair has fifty times that number of flights every DAY out of Girona.
Draw your own conclusions about "business models".
There's ALWAYS a choice. RYR operate out of my local airport (15 minute drive), but I choose to drive 70 minutes to an alternative airport so that I may have the pleasure of avoiding RYR.
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There's ALWAYS a choice. RYR operate out of my local airport (15 minute drive), but I choose to drive 70 minutes to an alternative airport so that I may have the pleasure of avoiding RYR.
There's ALWAYS a choice. RYR operate out of my local airport (15 minute drive), but I choose to drive 70 minutes to an alternative airport so that I may have the pleasure of avoiding RYR.
Recent examples for 3 of us on comparable routes were FR- 200 eur, BA- 750, KLM- 1200.
Actually, not all that comparable- FR are direct, the other 2 via one of the London airports or Amsterdam.
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because Ryanair operate over 50 flights a day to various destinations from my local airport, which is an hour's drive away, AND NO OTHER SCHEDULED AIRLINE FLIES THERE AT ALL.
Same applies to many European destinations. What's difficult to understand about "no other choice", then ?
Same applies to many European destinations. What's difficult to understand about "no other choice", then ?
There is always a choice. I also prefer to drive further and/or pay more to avoid this lousy cheating outfit.
Exactly FF, that is your choice - and I'm not criticising it. I'm just making a general point that there is a choice. Incidentally, the airline I use provide me with a substantially better all-round service (including FREE allocated seating) for a fare which is generally only between 10 and 20 Euros higher than the RYR fare. For me (my choice), that's well worth the extra driving distance and car costs (about 25 Euros).
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In my humble opinion, budget airlines are a complete waste of time.
Looking for a flight to Italy the other week to take a suitcase and golf clubs. By the time all of the "additional" charges were added up by a number of budget airlines BA were actually cheaper. I also don't end up 50 miles from where I want to be.
Looking for a flight to Italy the other week to take a suitcase and golf clubs. By the time all of the "additional" charges were added up by a number of budget airlines BA were actually cheaper. I also don't end up 50 miles from where I want to be.
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Exactly FF, that is your choice - and I'm not criticising it. I'm just making a general point that there is a choice. Incidentally, the airline I use provide me with a substantially better all-round service (including FREE allocated seating) for a fare which is generally only between 10 and 20 Euros higher than the RYR fare. For me (my choice), that's well worth the extra driving distance and car costs (about 25 Euros).
Exactly FF, that is your choice - and I'm not criticising it. I'm just making a general point that there is a choice. Incidentally, the airline I use provide me with a substantially better all-round service (including FREE allocated seating) for a fare which is generally only between 10 and 20 Euros higher than the RYR fare. For me (my choice), that's well worth the extra driving distance and car costs (about 25 Euros).
My point was that large numbers of people have the same choice I have- 200 euros with FR or 1200 euros with someone like KLM or BA, in the most extreme (but not uncommon) cases.
For most people, at some point, the cost differential for all intents and purposes removes any element of choice, or makes it "Fly lo-co or don't fly at all!"
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Does anyone know if there is any likelihood that passengers joining/ leaving Ryanair flights at Madrid will be able to use both forward and rear doors any time soon?
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Silly arguments.
And before Ryanair existed? And if they pull out of the route?
Before Ryanair flew to GRO it was closed (as in shut) for four months of the year, and the rest of the time a few charter airliners flew in there. Now FR are flying 6,000,000 a month (June figures) thro GRO.
If they pull out of the route ? Are you suggesting they'll cut 50 flights a day ?
Choice, yeah, I do have one. Drive for three times as long to reach El Prat (and sit in a traffic jam for one of those hours on the Ronda Littoral) to pay twice as much with BA or IBERIA and then walk into a baggage strike at Heathrow. Great.
Actually there IS a choice. Drive an hour north to Perpinan and take the TGV to Paris (5 hours, €45 first class) and the Eurostar to central London for 35 quid.
Pure luxury.
And before Ryanair existed? And if they pull out of the route?
Before Ryanair flew to GRO it was closed (as in shut) for four months of the year, and the rest of the time a few charter airliners flew in there. Now FR are flying 6,000,000 a month (June figures) thro GRO.
If they pull out of the route ? Are you suggesting they'll cut 50 flights a day ?
Choice, yeah, I do have one. Drive for three times as long to reach El Prat (and sit in a traffic jam for one of those hours on the Ronda Littoral) to pay twice as much with BA or IBERIA and then walk into a baggage strike at Heathrow. Great.
Actually there IS a choice. Drive an hour north to Perpinan and take the TGV to Paris (5 hours, €45 first class) and the Eurostar to central London for 35 quid.
Pure luxury.
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If these pax are dumb enough to fly with Pikey Airways, in spite of their well-known attitude to customer service, they deserve all they get. There's always another way to get there that does not involve these cowboys.
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John R - exactly, but when things do go wrong, Ryanair is the last airline that you want to be with. See the other thread regarding Easyjet excellent policy on overnight hotel accomodation when a flight has to be cancelled.
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Bloody hell - how many times do we have to go through this Ryanair nonsense. I fly with them 4 times a month, have been for the past 5 years. Never had an issue apart from diversions (krk), which I trust the people up front have done based on prudent safety reasons.
I don't expect anything other than a safe arrival.
Seriously, If you like to bring golfclubs, cello or your piano, don't fly with Ryanair.
If you need to check in bags - don't fly with Ryanair.
If you expect free wine and prawn sandwiches on boarding - don't fly with Ryanair.
If you don't like stag parties or hens, dont fly with Ryanair.
If you have kids don't fly with Ryanair.
If you don't like the colour combo of blue and yellow, don't fly with Rynair.
If you have hand luggage, can check in online and a decent set of iPod speakers and want to get somewhere for cheap - fly with Ryanair.
.... manage your expectation for gods sake and stop all the whining
I don't expect anything other than a safe arrival.
Seriously, If you like to bring golfclubs, cello or your piano, don't fly with Ryanair.
If you need to check in bags - don't fly with Ryanair.
If you expect free wine and prawn sandwiches on boarding - don't fly with Ryanair.
If you don't like stag parties or hens, dont fly with Ryanair.
If you have kids don't fly with Ryanair.
If you don't like the colour combo of blue and yellow, don't fly with Rynair.
If you have hand luggage, can check in online and a decent set of iPod speakers and want to get somewhere for cheap - fly with Ryanair.
.... manage your expectation for gods sake and stop all the whining
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Getting better at bag dropoff?
Hi,
Off on 2 weeks holiday with Ryanair on 26 August at 06h45.
Unfortunately need to checkin luggage - reckon we can't go for a fortnight with hand luggage only.
Anybody know if things are getting better now for bag dropoff?
Cheers,
Peter
Off on 2 weeks holiday with Ryanair on 26 August at 06h45.
Unfortunately need to checkin luggage - reckon we can't go for a fortnight with hand luggage only.
Anybody know if things are getting better now for bag dropoff?
Cheers,
Peter
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Have just completed in excess of 30 flights in last 6 weeks on both legacy carriers and LCC, covering all classes- first and business class transatlantic, business and economy wthin Europe, including 4 sectors with LCC, 2 of these were Ryanair. The check in experience at Stansted for our early morning departure was absolutely horrendous, we checked in online and the bag drop clearly did not work, there was absolute chaos with no direction given. The shame is that after this the Ryanair experience was fine, boarding was orderly, the prority boarding was controlled and the cabin crew on both sectors were both polite and professional, once on board they were on par with many other airlines i have travelled with, including some legacy carriers. This was my first experience of Ryanair and so long as the check in/bag drop problems get sorted i would use them again next time i am in Europe.