Frequent Flyer HATES bad manners!
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Frequent Flyer HATES bad manners!
I'm sure I'm not alone in experiencing what I am about to describe, but I'm also sure that some of you on here may be guilty of the things I've noticed recently on my four flights a week! This is a way of me letting off steam in a funny sort of way!
OK, so first of all. Is it just us Brits that know how to queue? I note that even at ABZ but mostly at AMS I can be patiently standing in line to board, only to have men and women alike walk to the front of the line without so much as an excuse me or a do you mind, who then turn to glare at you if you so much as grumble.
How many screens/posters does it take to remind people with hand luggage that when they get to security they have to get out toilettries/laptops, take off coats, be prepared to remove shoes/belts? I am fed up of being behind the numpty that gets to security, plonks their bag on the belt and is asked, "Do you have a laptop"? ... "errrr, yeah" ... "Can you remove it please" ... "Do you have any liquids/gels"? .... "errrrr, yeah" ... "Can you remove them please" ... etc etc etc
WHY does everyone RUSH to go through the gate when it opens. We are all getting on the same plane. We all have allocated seats (unless it's EZY and then you HAVE to be on your toes!), the plane won't leave without you (within reason). Do you HAVE to stand on my toes, elbow me in the ribs and bosom, run my feet over with your trolley case? Is it a RACE?
When there is a bus that takes us to the plane, why do you insist on putting your case on the seat next to you and looking into space when I ask if you can please move it? Or sitting in the first seat of four and blocking the other three seats? Why do men not give up their seats for the more elderly passengers? I don't expect the old fashioned way of giving your seat for a lady, but for the elderly or infirm I do.
When we finally get ON the plane, do you HAVE to stand in the aisle taking off your coat, jumpers and ties, getting stuff out the overhead lockers, generally rumaging in your bags. Can't you sort yourself out BEFORE we get on, so it doesn't take an hour to seat everyone.
As you're walking up the aisle to your seat, do consider those of us already seated in the aisle seats. I don't really want your ar5e wiped across my face as you jostle along, neither do I want another black eye from having your bag/case/rucksack smacked into my face.
When we're sat down and it's a bit 'cosy' do you HAVE to put both your arms on the armrests? Wouldn't it be more courteous if we had one each?
Who's idea was it to offer BROADSHEET papers on board? I'm fed up with having the pre-flight demo obscured, or half a sheet and an arm across my face, or the top of it bouncing on my head, or the person across the aisle leaning into the aisle and poking me in the arm with the corner!
When we land, do you HAVE to get up the minute we're even close to stopping? And when you take your case from the overhead, do try NOT to swing it into the side of my head. And if you do, an "OOps, sorry" would be nice.
Just how drunk is TOO drunk to be allowed on a plane? I have asked this before. Last week, the guy in front of me was THAT pi**ed he could barely stand up. But he could stand up when trampling on my feet. He STANK of booze. But he was allowed on! Actually I have noted that the flight home to ABZ is full of people who have had more than just a quick one to calm te nerves. The lounge/plane reeks of stale liquor. I've yet to see anyone refused entry to a flight because they were drunk.
And lastly, to Cabin Crew, who do such a stirling job but I have one complaint. I'm not the only person who sometimes has to lean slightly into the aisle, or nods off and whose head rolls that way, but is there any need to smash the trolley into the passenger? I've seen mostly courteous and funny ways of dealing with the arm/leg/head that's in the way, but I've also seen outright awful people charging down the aisle and bumping passengers!
Anyway, that get's it off my chest for now ... it'll all start again tomorrow when I go home!
OK, so first of all. Is it just us Brits that know how to queue? I note that even at ABZ but mostly at AMS I can be patiently standing in line to board, only to have men and women alike walk to the front of the line without so much as an excuse me or a do you mind, who then turn to glare at you if you so much as grumble.
How many screens/posters does it take to remind people with hand luggage that when they get to security they have to get out toilettries/laptops, take off coats, be prepared to remove shoes/belts? I am fed up of being behind the numpty that gets to security, plonks their bag on the belt and is asked, "Do you have a laptop"? ... "errrr, yeah" ... "Can you remove it please" ... "Do you have any liquids/gels"? .... "errrrr, yeah" ... "Can you remove them please" ... etc etc etc
WHY does everyone RUSH to go through the gate when it opens. We are all getting on the same plane. We all have allocated seats (unless it's EZY and then you HAVE to be on your toes!), the plane won't leave without you (within reason). Do you HAVE to stand on my toes, elbow me in the ribs and bosom, run my feet over with your trolley case? Is it a RACE?
When there is a bus that takes us to the plane, why do you insist on putting your case on the seat next to you and looking into space when I ask if you can please move it? Or sitting in the first seat of four and blocking the other three seats? Why do men not give up their seats for the more elderly passengers? I don't expect the old fashioned way of giving your seat for a lady, but for the elderly or infirm I do.
When we finally get ON the plane, do you HAVE to stand in the aisle taking off your coat, jumpers and ties, getting stuff out the overhead lockers, generally rumaging in your bags. Can't you sort yourself out BEFORE we get on, so it doesn't take an hour to seat everyone.
As you're walking up the aisle to your seat, do consider those of us already seated in the aisle seats. I don't really want your ar5e wiped across my face as you jostle along, neither do I want another black eye from having your bag/case/rucksack smacked into my face.
When we're sat down and it's a bit 'cosy' do you HAVE to put both your arms on the armrests? Wouldn't it be more courteous if we had one each?
Who's idea was it to offer BROADSHEET papers on board? I'm fed up with having the pre-flight demo obscured, or half a sheet and an arm across my face, or the top of it bouncing on my head, or the person across the aisle leaning into the aisle and poking me in the arm with the corner!
When we land, do you HAVE to get up the minute we're even close to stopping? And when you take your case from the overhead, do try NOT to swing it into the side of my head. And if you do, an "OOps, sorry" would be nice.
Just how drunk is TOO drunk to be allowed on a plane? I have asked this before. Last week, the guy in front of me was THAT pi**ed he could barely stand up. But he could stand up when trampling on my feet. He STANK of booze. But he was allowed on! Actually I have noted that the flight home to ABZ is full of people who have had more than just a quick one to calm te nerves. The lounge/plane reeks of stale liquor. I've yet to see anyone refused entry to a flight because they were drunk.
And lastly, to Cabin Crew, who do such a stirling job but I have one complaint. I'm not the only person who sometimes has to lean slightly into the aisle, or nods off and whose head rolls that way, but is there any need to smash the trolley into the passenger? I've seen mostly courteous and funny ways of dealing with the arm/leg/head that's in the way, but I've also seen outright awful people charging down the aisle and bumping passengers!
Anyway, that get's it off my chest for now ... it'll all start again tomorrow when I go home!
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You hit most all of them, FWOF!
I think most people travel in a little cocoon around themselves, oblivious to everyone else. It's all about "what I need" now.
Not helped by the airlines complete lack of any semblance of customer service now, fostering that attitude of "everyone for himself".
Sigh.
I think most people travel in a little cocoon around themselves, oblivious to everyone else. It's all about "what I need" now.
Not helped by the airlines complete lack of any semblance of customer service now, fostering that attitude of "everyone for himself".
Sigh.
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Yep
Sounds like KLM cityhopper to me !!
Add, the first couple of rows of seats on the RHS held open for cabin crew, either having a holiday, or positioning, then chatting away (girlie talk) for the duration of the flight, asking for bottles of water, and or magazines to read, and genreally slowing things down, because we have to wait for them to disembark last, whilst waiting for their "crew" bags to be left a tht front of the steps so that THEY don't have to wait at the carousel !
Add, the first couple of rows of seats on the RHS held open for cabin crew, either having a holiday, or positioning, then chatting away (girlie talk) for the duration of the flight, asking for bottles of water, and or magazines to read, and genreally slowing things down, because we have to wait for them to disembark last, whilst waiting for their "crew" bags to be left a tht front of the steps so that THEY don't have to wait at the carousel !
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Only 4 flights a week??
Some of us do 20, 24 short haul sectors: now you know how we feel.
The process of entering an airport renders certain individuals incapable of remembering the basic courtesy they were taught as children.
Hence when we get ANY aggravation the simple solution is " Get off". Pas de problem.
Some of us do 20, 24 short haul sectors: now you know how we feel.
The process of entering an airport renders certain individuals incapable of remembering the basic courtesy they were taught as children.
Hence when we get ANY aggravation the simple solution is " Get off". Pas de problem.
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Not me, I am the model passenger, get on early and sit right down. Watch the briefing, then promptly fall asleep for the 40 minute hop from HUY to AMS.
Now, on the long haul flight's I'm good too, in case they gift me a little blue and white house, as a reward for being a good boy.
Waddya mean, everyone up front / upstairs gets one ???
Now, on the long haul flight's I'm good too, in case they gift me a little blue and white house, as a reward for being a good boy.
Waddya mean, everyone up front / upstairs gets one ???
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I never have problems with people jumping the queue or leaving bags on a seat. I find a Glasgow accent works wonders as does asking politely once to shift the ofending bag. I ask once and then I move it for you......
British people are rubbish in these situations as they just make faces and do squat.
Disclaimer : If it was the midnight Ibiza or there was a pack of chavs then I would slink away but one on one on a sensbile airline.....
Och aye....
British people are rubbish in these situations as they just make faces and do squat.
Disclaimer : If it was the midnight Ibiza or there was a pack of chavs then I would slink away but one on one on a sensbile airline.....
Och aye....
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I find a Glasgow accent works wonders...
British people are rubbish in these situations as they just make faces and do squat.
British people are rubbish in these situations as they just make faces and do squat.
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And lastly, to Cabin Crew, who do such a stirling job but I have one complaint. I'm not the only person who sometimes has to lean slightly into the aisle, or nods off and whose head rolls that way, but is there any need to smash the trolley into the passenger? I've seen mostly courteous and funny ways of dealing with the arm/leg/head that's in the way, but I've also seen outright awful people charging down the aisle and bumping passengers!
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There's plenty of room there. He wasn't even an overly tall man. If he had been, fair enough but that's till no excuse to obstruct the aisle and be blatantly rude and ignorant
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I had a woman ask me to help her lift her enormous trolley case into the overhead bins a while ago. I said no 
If you can't lift it, why are you towing it onboard for?
I sadly, I'm not blessed with patience
If you can't lift it, why are you towing it onboard for?
I sadly, I'm not blessed with patience
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Is it just us Brits that know how to queue?
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methane spewing mobile phone junkie
The unpleasantness of persons who practice the bodily function of passing intestinal flatus via the anus whilst at 37,000 feet is the one that gets me. But, I could consider myself lucky as I haven't yet had the experience of sitting beside a methane spewing mobile phone junkie.
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nuisance passengers . . . . .. . .
the bodily function of passing intestinal flatus via the anus whilst at 37,000 feet
Oh yes - and via just what else COULD it be passed ?
I, too, just dread the coming of mobile phones to flights. Will there be an aviation equivalent of the train's "quiet coach", I wonder ?
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The trick is to pin the blame on your seatmate.
Interesting comments, with which I wholly agree. However, consider for a moment the airport/airline staff who have to put up with this every hour of every day.
My pet hate is people who cannot remember what colour/shape/size their bag is, and picking up almost every bag that comes down the carousel.
Some years ago, when I was working as a dispatcher, a bloke who had checked in a bag decided that he wasn't going to travel after all. Of course we had to retrieve his bag from the aircraft, so to try to expedite the process, and avoid a delay, I asked him what colour it was. "Err I'm not sure," he replied. "Any distinguishing marks, tags etc., on the bag?" "Err no, not really." We eventually found it by the tag number. It was a large green bag with 'Jaguar' on the side in large letters. He had only checked it in 30 mins before.
After the aircraft took off, I spent some minutes wondering how he would fare if there was an emergency on board.
My personal view is that all potential airline passengers should spend a week or two working at an airport before they are allowed to fly. Impractical but illuminating for all concerned. 'Airline' doesn't even begin to tell the story...
My pet hate is people who cannot remember what colour/shape/size their bag is, and picking up almost every bag that comes down the carousel.
Some years ago, when I was working as a dispatcher, a bloke who had checked in a bag decided that he wasn't going to travel after all. Of course we had to retrieve his bag from the aircraft, so to try to expedite the process, and avoid a delay, I asked him what colour it was. "Err I'm not sure," he replied. "Any distinguishing marks, tags etc., on the bag?" "Err no, not really." We eventually found it by the tag number. It was a large green bag with 'Jaguar' on the side in large letters. He had only checked it in 30 mins before.
After the aircraft took off, I spent some minutes wondering how he would fare if there was an emergency on board.
My personal view is that all potential airline passengers should spend a week or two working at an airport before they are allowed to fly. Impractical but illuminating for all concerned. 'Airline' doesn't even begin to tell the story...
